Pretty sure it's pillow fights and group showers.mosher wrote:What does a normal girl do all day??
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A lot of women spend a lot of their time building their relationships with their friends and family.
There is a story of someone looking out onto a play ground and seeing groups of boys and girls out for recess. They see boys are all out running around, doing sports, yelling, competing ... they look out and see the girls who are grouped into circles sitting down but not doing what the boys were doing and they wonder what they are doing. The answer is that these girls were talking. They are building their relationships with their friends.
Men bond by competing and swapping tales of how they out did their friends. Women bond by finding similarities.
While both the above points are generalizations they are true for a lot of boys and a lot of girls. There are reasons why the average women uses so many more words a day than the average man. There is a reason why so many more women seem in touch with their emotions than men.
Just because girls are not out there playing "niche" sports doesn't mean they aren't doing anything. We boys may not understand what they do with their time but it would be a mistake to label how they spend their time as any less valuable or deserving than ours.
There is a story of someone looking out onto a play ground and seeing groups of boys and girls out for recess. They see boys are all out running around, doing sports, yelling, competing ... they look out and see the girls who are grouped into circles sitting down but not doing what the boys were doing and they wonder what they are doing. The answer is that these girls were talking. They are building their relationships with their friends.
Men bond by competing and swapping tales of how they out did their friends. Women bond by finding similarities.
While both the above points are generalizations they are true for a lot of boys and a lot of girls. There are reasons why the average women uses so many more words a day than the average man. There is a reason why so many more women seem in touch with their emotions than men.
Just because girls are not out there playing "niche" sports doesn't mean they aren't doing anything. We boys may not understand what they do with their time but it would be a mistake to label how they spend their time as any less valuable or deserving than ours.
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Thank you Jon.<3 It is unbelievably true and it actually brought tears to my eyes to read it so thoroughly understood. haha- what a girl move! I nearly fucking cry from a post on modified! pffffft.
See, I was going to say that I think it's really funny that Tom says that hanging out with your friends is "BORING" !!! What the hell?! I think it's like, the funnest and most important part of my life. One of the major reasons I love footbag so much is because of the community and all of the awesome friends I've made through it.
We are social beings.
You won't be able to do many tricks when your body is old and shriveled, and god help you if that's all you had. THEN your life will be truly boring.
Women also need to build relationships, especially with each other, because we NEED the support of other people. Do you know how difficult it is to take care of children while also juggling a ton of other things? If for that reason alone.
Of course I'm not the average girl either and I do A LOT of different things... besides footbag and responsibilities to friends and family (I really bite off more than I can chew, trying to be helpful and trying to spread myself out among everyone), I have a lot of animals, go to school, work, create art, build my career... I could list a million things... There are so many that I'm losing sleep just to write this...
And of course I see how typical girls are so friggin boring and don't really get GOOD at much more than talking, shopping, dancing, etc... god I HATE Sex & the City... girls suck.
I have many many friends but very very few girlfriends. I find most of them boring or dramatic or manipulative (of course they are, they're "good" at relationships, right?) or all of the above plus worse. It's unfortunate, but men have their own downsides just as much.
For what it's worth I have recently been finding some pretty solid chicks whom I totally adore. They actually DO things!!! And they like to hang with the boys and do stereotypically "boy" things too! There is hope for you yet.
So, what this all comes down to is... Tom is just gay.
See, I was going to say that I think it's really funny that Tom says that hanging out with your friends is "BORING" !!! What the hell?! I think it's like, the funnest and most important part of my life. One of the major reasons I love footbag so much is because of the community and all of the awesome friends I've made through it.
We are social beings.
You won't be able to do many tricks when your body is old and shriveled, and god help you if that's all you had. THEN your life will be truly boring.
Women also need to build relationships, especially with each other, because we NEED the support of other people. Do you know how difficult it is to take care of children while also juggling a ton of other things? If for that reason alone.
Of course I'm not the average girl either and I do A LOT of different things... besides footbag and responsibilities to friends and family (I really bite off more than I can chew, trying to be helpful and trying to spread myself out among everyone), I have a lot of animals, go to school, work, create art, build my career... I could list a million things... There are so many that I'm losing sleep just to write this...
And of course I see how typical girls are so friggin boring and don't really get GOOD at much more than talking, shopping, dancing, etc... god I HATE Sex & the City... girls suck.
For what it's worth I have recently been finding some pretty solid chicks whom I totally adore. They actually DO things!!! And they like to hang with the boys and do stereotypically "boy" things too! There is hope for you yet.
So, what this all comes down to is... Tom is just gay.
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THANK YOU for posting something truthful. It's annoying when some women constantly get defensive or blame men for the way 'typical' women behave. Very refreshing some of the comments from females in this thread. Sorry to detract if I did.Camilleon wrote:And of course I see how typical girls are so friggin boring and don't really get GOOD at much more than talking, shopping, dancing, etc... god I HATE Sex & the City... girls suck. Sad I have many many friends but very very few girlfriends. I find most of them boring or dramatic or manipulative (of course they are, they're "good" at relationships, right?) or all of the above plus worse. It's unfortunate, but men have their own downsides just as much.
Oh, and I hate Sex & the City too
J. Chris "Thread-killer" Miller
Camille, you made me laugh a couple of times in your last post, but I'd have to agree with you. Especially here:
I do like to build my relationships. I just don't like to shop or can't talk as much as a normal girl. Too shy or have nothing to say. No drama. Don't like to shop, cuz I have the worst luck at finding things my size when I like them. I have my days. And I secrectly wish I could dance. Haha...I want to find a guy like in Save the Last Dance or (insert typical dance movie here) to take me to a club and teach me.
Sometimes I feel like I'm about to lose it if I don't find someone to talk to or to help me out.Camilleon wrote:Women also need to build relationships, especially with each other, because we NEED the support of other people. Do you know how difficult it is to take care of children while also juggling a ton of other things? If for that reason alone.
I do like to build my relationships. I just don't like to shop or can't talk as much as a normal girl. Too shy or have nothing to say. No drama. Don't like to shop, cuz I have the worst luck at finding things my size when I like them. I have my days. And I secrectly wish I could dance. Haha...I want to find a guy like in Save the Last Dance or (insert typical dance movie here) to take me to a club and teach me.
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Even if I don't want to bed down with a girl at first meeting, once I see her playing footbag, it will, more often than not, make a part of me want to fuck her (take that as you will).
There's a big difference between "want" and "do", though. Never actually done it.
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As footbag dating goes... I can easily think of a handful of women players right off the top of my head who I think are intriguing, smart, independent, creative, and strong. Those are all attributes that I find VERY attractive, and when you combine it with the fact that they're doing something that I love that just happens to give the players killer bodies... Sorry, ladies, but I can't help it that that gets my imagination's hopes up.
As for dating a non-footbagger and trying to get her in to it, I am really not interested in that.
I have an alpha male teacher complex when it comes to footbag, and that's not a healthy thing in a young relationship, especially not for the strong-minded ladies I prefer to be around. Also, I've tried it a few times, to no success.
Basically, some girls are already into footbag, and I think that's hot. other girls are never going to like footbag, and I think that's cool.
Even if I don't want to bed down with a girl at first meeting, once I see her playing footbag, it will, more often than not, make a part of me want to fuck her (take that as you will).
There's a big difference between "want" and "do", though. Never actually done it.
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As footbag dating goes... I can easily think of a handful of women players right off the top of my head who I think are intriguing, smart, independent, creative, and strong. Those are all attributes that I find VERY attractive, and when you combine it with the fact that they're doing something that I love that just happens to give the players killer bodies... Sorry, ladies, but I can't help it that that gets my imagination's hopes up.
As for dating a non-footbagger and trying to get her in to it, I am really not interested in that.
I have an alpha male teacher complex when it comes to footbag, and that's not a healthy thing in a young relationship, especially not for the strong-minded ladies I prefer to be around. Also, I've tried it a few times, to no success.
Basically, some girls are already into footbag, and I think that's hot. other girls are never going to like footbag, and I think that's cool.
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hahahahaha Chrissy you are so funny!
I can't dance for shit; I feel so "white"! I try and I suppose I manage (if I'm drunk it's a totally different story haha), but really the only "dancing" I can do is to ska music (skanking). And that's just kickin and throwing your arms around hahaha. I'm hopeless...
Anyway I'm really happy you agree, I was a bit worried some girls would get mad with what I wrote. I wouldn't say it if I didn't think it was true.
Men suck too for the record. Ugggghhhhh....
Matt- thanks for being so publicly candid. Can't say I'm surprised or didn't know you thought that way though.
And it's true- shreditas fuckin rock!
I can't dance for shit; I feel so "white"! I try and I suppose I manage (if I'm drunk it's a totally different story haha), but really the only "dancing" I can do is to ska music (skanking). And that's just kickin and throwing your arms around hahaha. I'm hopeless...
Anyway I'm really happy you agree, I was a bit worried some girls would get mad with what I wrote. I wouldn't say it if I didn't think it was true.
Men suck too for the record. Ugggghhhhh....
Matt- thanks for being so publicly candid. Can't say I'm surprised or didn't know you thought that way though.
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Perhaps it is our expectations that are out of line with reality rather than assuming that the majority simply doesn't live up to our expectations.
Perhaps it is our expectations that are out of line with reality rather than assuming that the majority simply doesn't live up to our expectations.
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Interesting replies all around!
Camille - you hit the nail on the head, I am a giant [derogatory language - King Monkey]
But really, I will take note of your points, they've for sure got me thinking at least. Perhaps I underestimated how much girls value forming and developing relationships. To be honest, I put very little effort into that specifically and find that those things tend to develop if they're supposed to.
Maybe part of my problem is that I'm not thaaaaaaaat social when it comes down to it. I like people sometimes, and I am willing to blab about certain topics, but you would have alot of trouble convincing me to come over to your house to 'chill' or 'just hang out'. I am basically unable to do either of those things because I am a DO-er!
Not to say women aren't but I certainly am, and I'd love to find a chick that wants to DO with me.
In fact, this thread and the fact that I've been reading lots of personal ads have got me thinking way more about what exactly I want in a girl. Maybe some day I will find her!
Oh, and I have no intention of forcing footbag onto any girl I meet. She will know about all the various sports/activities I do, and I will be open to sharing and teaching *if she wants*, but it is not a goal of mine to make any more shreditas.
Camille - you hit the nail on the head, I am a giant [derogatory language - King Monkey]
But really, I will take note of your points, they've for sure got me thinking at least. Perhaps I underestimated how much girls value forming and developing relationships. To be honest, I put very little effort into that specifically and find that those things tend to develop if they're supposed to.
Maybe part of my problem is that I'm not thaaaaaaaat social when it comes down to it. I like people sometimes, and I am willing to blab about certain topics, but you would have alot of trouble convincing me to come over to your house to 'chill' or 'just hang out'. I am basically unable to do either of those things because I am a DO-er!
Not to say women aren't but I certainly am, and I'd love to find a chick that wants to DO with me.
In fact, this thread and the fact that I've been reading lots of personal ads have got me thinking way more about what exactly I want in a girl. Maybe some day I will find her!
Oh, and I have no intention of forcing footbag onto any girl I meet. She will know about all the various sports/activities I do, and I will be open to sharing and teaching *if she wants*, but it is not a goal of mine to make any more shreditas.
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I like your expectations in girls, Chad. I completely agree with your statement.CautionFragile wrote:Girls fart whether they say they do or not.
This thread is pretty interesting, and I'm learning little by little on what is casual/normative in building relations with people.
I think girls that play footbag are cool and awesome. I like building relationships through footbag, whether it is with guys or girls. Obviously if it is with a girl there will be a stronger connection/attraction, but I agree with Jon that, even though it may be a generalization, what we expect through our socialization with either the same or opposite sex has a completely independent component in of itself that is utilized. There are different people in the world, with different ways and mannerisms to network and socialize with other people. This can be gender-specific in a lot of ways with the overall population of the world, and what they do to strengthen their bonds in their relationships is how they choose to approach it. Our expectations just become an objective subjectivity that blinds us on what is really happening.
I mean, I wouldn't mind if the world was dominated by the sport of footbag, and it would certainly make my life a lot easier, but it would be equally challenging and interesting to find aspects of both the same and opposite sex that appeal to you. Relations can be formed from simply that. You just need to build it.
I guess maybe it's just a selfish request for me to want somebody that has a strong inclination/passion to footbag like I do. That's my usual comfort zone and where I usually begin to bond with people, but venturing out of that and into foreign terrain isn't so bad either. Like Tom, people will know what I like to do when the time is right.
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I like sex and the city.
I hope this starts a new page.
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