Do barefoot tricks count?

mosher · Post by **mosher** » 06 Mar 2005 10:58

Do you have to be wearing shoes for tricks to count?

It seems so arbitrary to say that you have to be wearing a pair of shoes in order for a trick to count.

While we are at it we should require that you wear one puce wristband for a trick to be legit.

BainbridgeShred · Post by **BainbridgeShred** » 06 Mar 2005 11:03

I voted in the affirmative. A trick is a trick.

sampotter · Post by **sampotter** » 06 Mar 2005 11:35

If you have to take off your shoes to give you the added speed to hit high dexterity tricks, then no, it doesn't count. You may hit a big trick barefoot, and it could be massive, but if you're in the middle of a run you can't exactly take off your shoes to drop it midstring, can you?

mosher · Post by **mosher** » 06 Mar 2005 13:50

Ok then sam, is removing material from shoes to make them lighter ALSO cheating?

HAH!

james · Post by **james** » 06 Mar 2005 14:31

There MUST be a reason we wear shoes when we play...I wonder what it could be.

Iain · Post by **Iain** » 06 Mar 2005 14:33

to help us do clipper stalls better because people are too lazy to learn them properly

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 06 Mar 2005 16:34

Barefoot only counts if you put shoe-goo on your feet.

HooD · Post by **HooD** » 06 Mar 2005 16:39

A trick is a trick, but if someone tells me they can only hit a move barefoot, I still give them props, I'm just waiting for them to bust it with shoes on, because that's how we play the game.

sampotter · Post by **sampotter** » 06 Mar 2005 16:51

HooD wrote:A trick is a trick, but if someone tells me they can only hit a move barefoot, I still give them props, I'm just waiting for them to bust it with shoes on, because that's how we play the game.

This is a good way of putting it.

mosher · Post by **mosher** » 06 Mar 2005 16:52

Nagasake wrote:
HooD wrote:A trick is a trick, but if someone tells me they can only hit a move barefoot, I still give them props, I'm just waiting for them to bust it with shoes on, because that's how we play the game.
This is a good way of putting it.

Likewise.

Though the trick should still "count".

sampotter · Post by **sampotter** » 06 Mar 2005 17:13

Well, it counts in the sense that you hit it barefoot. Different people will react differently to that. Furthermore, it varies dependant on what trick you hit. Barefoot montage vs. barefoot warp. The former is probably harder than in shoes, and the latter is probably easier. Even further, if you have crappy ankles or very strong ankles (Matt, Yves...) than the clipper trick will seen closer to the shoe variant.

Uranos · Post by **Uranos** » 06 Mar 2005 21:51

i think it still counts. However, If i do a double dex trick in barefeet eg Double around the world, id be happy but i would be morehappy if i hit it in shoes because it takes more skill in my opinion.

Seath · Post by **Seath** » 06 Mar 2005 22:05

who's counting?

grek · Post by **grek** » 07 Mar 2005 00:58

There MUST be a reason we wear shoes when we play...I wonder what it could be.

maybe cuz this way, your feet get much less damage... and it´s also much colder without shoes... (i think)

Why people wear shoes anyway... (not in footbag...)

King Monkey · Post by **King Monkey** » 07 Mar 2005 03:22

i dont have a problem with saying ' i hit whatever barefoot' but im expecting that person to hit it in shoes not long after, if they expect to count as having 'hit' it. I guess its just the accepted way. Shoes makes it harder to hit alot of moves due to weight and stuff, so there is more challenge to it.

mc · Post by mc » 07 Mar 2005 08:39

Do barefoot tricks count?

No.

Anz · Post by **Anz** » 07 Mar 2005 08:48

mosher wrote:Do you have to be wearing shoes for tricks to count?

Yes.

RRendsvig · Post by **RRendsvig** » 07 Mar 2005 08:59

Moves only count if hit in either Rod LAvers the China model from Adidas OR in any shoe made by Vans.

If you are balded then OF COURSE it doesn't count if you do a duck!
And if you weigh under 70 kilos, Symposium-moves doesn't count either, and if your legs are really skinny, you don't really dex...

So, if Yves Kreil did got up and did a 30 unique contacts of 3 and 4s barefoot in the Shred30 at the Worlds, he would get a score of 0.

mc · Post by mc » 07 Mar 2005 09:48

that last post was kind of a joke. what I meant to say was...

when a move occurs under special conditions (barefoot, drunk, in pants, while not watching the bag, while not spilling your beer), it still occurred, it's just important to remember to acknowledge the conditions. Now, granted, everything except barefoot could be considered a total hindrance (drunk, arguably... the last time I hit mobius, it was at GLASS after a few beers / joints. Did it first try with perfect balance), but I can say firsthand, that playing barefoot might make your dexes easier, but makes catches a lot harder. Especially on the toes, for me...

So, yeah... Is it the same as doing a move with your shoes on? no, it's not. Did it occur? yes. If you do it barefoot, just say barefoot before the move name.

I guess the only place this really matters is in competition. i know this hasn't been asked, but I would personally choose to allow barefoot play in tournaments. Maybe one move at a time is easier barefoot for a few select tricks, but linking tricks is NOT.

If someone can play better without shoes on in competition, I think they should be able to do that. I'd like to see who would actually step up and take that challenge for a routine or 30 second shred.

Asmus · Post by **Asmus** » 07 Mar 2005 10:39

I can do butterfly easyer barefoot then with shoes.. But i cant make clippers barefoot

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