Twill Rod Lavers

calven · Post by **calven** » 18 May 2010 10:22

I've been just looking in Ebay and other websites on the Rod Laver shoes. Turns out theres 2 that come out most in my search results. That TWL kind and the original ones ( I guess?). It seems that the original Rod Lavers are $10 more than the TWL ones. If so is there any advantage on the original ones then the soft fabric one? Because if not I would most definitely get the TWL ones

RobZ · Post by **RobZ** » 18 May 2010 10:44

Hey buddy i have the red twill lavers and i must say they are pretty sweet. I've played in both the leather ones and the twill ones now and they are more less the same. The only difference im aware of is the look. Either buy you will most likely be satisfied.

mc · Post by mc » 18 May 2010 10:54

twills are my favorite! I have used them for a few years now. They look a little cooler than other lavers IMO and the material around the ankle is the twill material instead of the pleather material that they use on mesh lavers.

You're in luck! score 'em!

When you decide you want to mod them, go to youtube and so a search for "Matt Cross Rod Laver" and you'll find my modification tutorial video.

calven · Post by **calven** » 18 May 2010 11:45

Matt Cross wrote:twills are my favorite! I have used them for a few years now. They look a little cooler than other lavers IMO and the material around the ankle is the twill material instead of the pleather material that they use on mesh lavers.

You're in luck! score 'em!

When you decide you want to mod them, go to youtube and so a search for "Matt Cross Rod Laver" and you'll find my modification tutorial video.

Thanks for the help!

Donovon · Post by **Donovon** » 18 May 2010 16:31

Has anyone ever cut the inner layer of the twill lavers?
Matt cut the twill surface off in his tutorial video, but i cut the inside surface on my mesh lavers and was wondering if the twill surface will hold and if its any good alone.
~Donovon

mc · Post by mc » 18 May 2010 17:09

Don, I have definitely heard of this. I would not do it myself - the twill is very thin and very light and soft and weak. The inside layer is grippier, stronger, and definitely soft enough.

Calven, you should edit this post (upper righthand corner of your orig. post) so that the title says "Twill Rod Lavers".

Donovon · Post by **Donovon** » 18 May 2010 17:15

So would removing the twill even make that large of a difference?
And did you do anything under the toes? I feel like i could break in the insides more, but the toes are definitely stiff.

mc · Post by mc » 18 May 2010 17:35

well, I should say, a little stiffness doesn't bother me, because it's good form and not the material that stalls the bag.

I find that the twill material itself is a little bouncy or un-grippy or poofy or something like that, and that it doesn't work well on top of the inner layer, IMO.

calven · Post by **calven** » 18 May 2010 17:46

Matt Cross wrote:Calven, you should edit this post (upper righthand corner of your orig. post) so that the title says "Twill Rod Lavers".

Did so

Dawn Of Freestyle · Post by **Dawn Of Freestyle** » 21 May 2010 20:29

You just reminded me of the time our footbag friends were visiting from Salt Lake City (Eric and Kristie if any of you know them). Penske had a few too many beers and offered to mod Kristie's new twill Lavers. He totally destroyed them! Ripped them to shreds and handed them back to her. It was hilarious!!

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 24 May 2010 08:55

The outer twill layer is too week if you mod the inner mesh out of the shoe. I did this for pair of Twills for Benny Kellman, and after one session of footbag the inside surface was busting straight seams over and over (right along to how the twill is patterned on the shoe).

If you're going to play in twills, it's recommended that you mod the outer surface of the shoe to keep its integrity, if you plan on modding them.

mc · Post by mc » 24 May 2010 15:13

Just got a new set of green ones in the mail! woooo! thanks ebay! only $30!

calven · Post by **calven** » 24 May 2010 18:17

Hey Matt, do those Twill Rod Lavers run larger or smaller in foot size?

Kurt Zubry · Post by **Kurt Zubry** » 24 May 2010 18:36

i really wanna try these but my size of 10/10.5 is exstinct..

mc · Post by mc » 24 May 2010 20:28

Calven, they fit like other lavers.

Kurt, here's the good news - they are not noticeably different than mesh lavers. You can mod mesh lavers in exactly the same way as I mod my twills (removing the outer layer on the toe and inside) to get a shoe that plays exactly the same way). If you just gotta have those stripes on the outside and heel, use a marker

otherwise, check ebay twice a week and you should have some good results within a few months.

Kurt Zubry · Post by **Kurt Zubry** » 25 May 2010 11:50

im actually intrested in the twill ankle support. the pleather is SOOO restricting to my german sized ankles lol. im gonna try leather lavers with mesh ankle support. i also think the mesh lavers arent that grippy

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 25 May 2010 12:23

If you mean the Rod-Laver mid-top, where the shoe has the ankle support covering the ankle, people have modded them in the past. Some more than others, with... sub-par results. They're either good for walking or for Footbag Net, imo.

Get the lo-top Rod Laver. It'll do you some good if you want to pursue Footbag Freestyle. The Twills are exceptionally much cheaper than the mesh, especially if you find a listing on ebay so by all means go for the twills if you wish.

Kurt Zubry · Post by **Kurt Zubry** » 25 May 2010 12:30

i have the lo top.. and i did brockas. but i did the brocka a bit too deep on the left shoe on accident.

Dawn Of Freestyle · Post by **Dawn Of Freestyle** » 25 May 2010 20:30

I should probably list the ones we have on eBay

We have 3 pairs of the red striped ones and 2 pairs of the green striped ones...all size 8.5

I also have one pair of size 8 Leather lavers in white/forest green.

Good to hear they can be made usable for shredders!
If anyone wants them let me know.