Sand Vs Pellets(Poll)

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Which do you prefer (Sand or Pellets)

Sand
20
18%
Pellets
45
41%
Pellets
45
41%
 
Total votes: 110

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Sand Vs Pellets(Poll)

Post by Lexiticus » 29 Apr 2002 09:19

I decided that since the other Sand vs Pellets post was getting big (And hard to tell which one most people prefered) that I would start a poll.

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Post by Muffinman » 29 Apr 2002 09:41

if you havent played with a good 32-panel facile [pellet bag], you havent experienced freestyle footbag, imo!

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Post by ffjshaw » 29 Apr 2002 09:56

just to get a good clear statement for me to act on, what is, in your opinion Chan, the best 32 panel facile i can get?

btw, somewhat unrelated, i checked out your FAQ on cleaning bags but you mentioned that your instructions were intended for a paneled bead bag. does it also apply in tact for a revolution bag? or are there subtle alterations?

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Post by brad n » 29 Apr 2002 12:57

pellets

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Post by Muffinman » 29 Apr 2002 13:14

i wash my revolution exactly the same as i wash my facile bags. thanks for checking out the faq :)

in my opinion, carol wedemeyer bags are the best 32-panel facile bag. but thats only coz i havent played with anything other than carol bags, and juice bags, umm and some otehr really crappy ones i wont mention. im sure richie abshire and mike wilson bags are equally good.

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Post by ffjshaw » 29 Apr 2002 16:09

are carols as small and heavy as revolutions? that's one thing i really appreciate about the revolution compared to my old bag, its much smaller and heavier. my last bag was a "hero" (i've never heard of it either) 32 panel synthetic leather bag and compared to my revolution its a monster in size but really too light to feel substantial... so, i would prefer a smaller heavy 32 panel facile if possible.

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Post by Bono » 29 Apr 2002 16:25

It's pretty windy most of the time up here in the mountains, and I've been told that Revolutions are the most wind-resistant bags so that's what I use. Thinking about getting a carol... in your experience are they ok in the wind or do they blow around a lot?
i like to kick the little footbag thing around and move my legs around it and stuff

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Post by the_lost » 30 Apr 2002 03:25

pellets are cool and stuff
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Post by BrianP » 30 Apr 2002 09:21

I like the 32 panel pellet bags because they don't seem to wobble like the sand bags when you kick them. If you get a good pellet bag it is just as easy to stall as a sand bag. I have a Mike Wilson, they are small and compact, although it does take quite a while to break them in good.

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Post by Muffinman » 01 May 2002 04:38

yeah, i forgot about that. facile bags take forever to work in. its sucky. and thats a big advantage with revolutions, is that they come shred-ready :)
carols are a bit bigger than revolutions when they work in.

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Post by ffjshaw » 01 May 2002 07:12

are pellet bags as heavy as revolutions?

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Post by Muffinman » 01 May 2002 07:31

i dont think so. revolutions are better for windy days.

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Post by Johnny5 » 01 May 2002 14:47

You know I really don't see how revelutions are better for windy days....I mean they are lighter than pellet, so That means wouldn't they be more ledgible to blowing away, and harder to control?

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Post by Munky » 12 Aug 2004 13:58

Probably my favorite bag ive owned is a 32 panel facile juice. Bought it in 1997, and i still have it, althought its really floppy now, and really light, but it stalls like a dream.

Within the past month ive been starting to play with Mr. Sandman bags though, they are really nice, just takes a bit of getting used to. Ive played with a lot of Dirtbags, I like them but they dont seem to last longer then a couple months.

Sand is nice for the outdoors where it might be a bit windy, pellets are nice for those windless days or inside. All the pellet bags ive played with seem to be a bit lighter then the sand ones. Usually with any pellet bag I have though, I put it away when im out in public and others join, just cause I dont want to see my juice get ripped from someone doing a toe pickup or somethin evil like that.

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Post by shreddaily » 12 Aug 2004 14:10

sandmans are great...
but there is a 32 panel out there for everyone! I went through about 4 different 32 panels and they all stunk IMO, all to light or not able to be broken in enough before the panels wore holes in them.
But keep looking, after finding the abshire minis, small and heavy, my game went through the roof!
To summarize, sandmans are great but EVERYONE needs to spend some time with a 32 panel, it just takes some searching.

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Post by crazydwarf » 12 Aug 2004 19:03

I'd love to say I use a 32 but as I don't I will have to vote sand. Not sure if it's better, I just havn't been able to get a 32 pellet bag yet...
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Post by Jas » 12 Aug 2004 21:36

Ive got a abshire mini, half way brokin in and its nearly as easy to kick as my really floppy Aurora from australia. Once its 'fully' broken in, im sure it will be twice as better than it is now and just as easy as a sandbag.
But its best to experiment which bag is best for YOU. its good to just test out diferent bags...

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Post by Munky » 13 Aug 2004 02:37

So, I haven't had the chance to see an abshire yet, but I see people talking about them quite a bit. Are they anything like a facile juice? They seem to have the same type of panels on it, pellets, etc, is this just the new juice or is it different in some way? From freedomfootbags.com, they dont mention if the abshire is a facile or not, but they seem to look the same to me. Anyway, im getting a couple mr. sandbags, so I wont be kicking my jester hack filled with aquarium rocks around anymore =)

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Post by peanutbuterboy » 13 Aug 2004 18:08

ive played with both and at school all anyone has is pellets, but till the day i die i will choose sand just becuase of the kick ass stalls

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Post by Jeremy » 13 Aug 2004 20:02

I started out playing with pellets. Moved to sand for a while and have now moved back to pellets. I think that being able to play well with lots of different bags is a really important skill to learn and is especially important if plan on going to tournaments.

I guess the main reason I prefer pellets is that the bag I'm currently using (an abshire mini) is a lot heavier than the sand bags I've used in the past (mr sandman and aurora) It also keeps it shape better and I believe is a lot better for my technique. I think that a player that mainly uses pellet bags will find it a lot easier to use a sandbag than a sand player will find it using a pellet bag. Pellet bags teach you how to stall better and they also force you to perform dexes earlier and thus cleaner - I especially notice this with symp double downs. With a sandbag and fast legs it's very easy to "the" dexes and still land the move. With a pellet bag if you just stick your foot out at the last minute and hope the bag stays there, chances are it will bounce off - you need to actually take the stalling foot down with the bag - this forces you to get the dexes done quicker - both starting earlier and taking less time - thus these days my double dexes are more consistantly clean (I believe) than they used to be.

But most I guess the most important thing to do is to try out as many different bags as you can. I think I've now played with most of the different kinds of bags you can get and have some idea how they perform. I don't really have a favourite kind of bag - rather I want to be good enough that I can shred well with anybag.

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