inspinning and in-gyro

janis · Post by **janis** » 10 Jun 2006 03:05

What's the difference between inspinning and in-gyro?

ptaku · Post by **ptaku** » 10 Jun 2006 03:12

Inspinning is a complete in-spin where the bag travels to the opposite, to where it was set from, side of the body.
And In-Gyro is Inspinning but the bag stays on the setting side of the body, so it doesn't pass in front of the body 2nd time.

shredzilla · Post by **shredzilla** » 18 Oct 2007 00:08

This is a pretty wild concept actually. What's neat is when the plant rule comes into play, the opposite is used for ingyro as gyro. So like on ingyro mirage, you actually plant instead of no plant with gyro. Even cooler is the lack of plant on inspyro (ingyro symposium) mirage. And ingyro clipper doesn't get a plant, where gyro does.

A cool thing about inspinning is you can choose to plant or not. With spinning, there's only a couple moves that you can execute without planting before they become symposium. The most ready examples are clipper and swirl. But with inspinning, you could do inspinning legover or butterfly without ever planting.

Just for clarification:

Gyro = .5 spins away from set foot
Spinning = 1 spin away from set foot
Ingyro = 1.5 spins toward set foot
Inspinning = 2 spins toward set foot

Sorry, I've been kinda geeking out a little on the ingyro/inspinning concept lately since I saw dave's last video.

Sporatical_Distractions · Post by **Sporatical_Distractions** » 18 Oct 2007 10:59

Here's an example of ingyro mirage:

-right clip set
-inspin motion
-mirage w/ left leg
-delay on right toe

inspinning mirage:
-right clip set
-inspin motion
-mirage w/ right leg
-delay on left toe

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 22 Oct 2007 06:34

Plant rule? What plant rule?

I would say that planting or not planting on an ingyro clipper makes no difference to the name of the move. In fact I would tend to assume a plant unless stated. If somebody said that they hit "inspyro clipper" I would assume the really accentuated the clipper - doing it "symple" style.

shredzilla · Post by **shredzilla** » 22 Oct 2007 10:25

Jeremy wrote:Plant rule? What plant rule?

I would say that planting or not planting on an ingyro clipper makes no difference to the name of the move. In fact I would tend to assume a plant unless stated. If somebody said that they hit "inspyro clipper" I would assume the really accentuated the clipper - doing it "symple" style.

Well according to definition, you don't plant on gyro correct? ie. gyro mirage, mobius, vortex, etc. - no plant. Therefore my assumption was you do the same for ingyro.

janis · Post by **janis** » 22 Oct 2007 16:19

Ok so recently I've been working on spinning, a lot of spinning from toe and kicks and also pincher.

I did a move where I set with a inside kick or a toe kick and inspin while looking at the bag the whole time. So it would be a bit like an kick set inspinning except that I never lose sight of the bag for the whole move, what would this be called?

Also what's the name when you do something like an ingyro mirage, but with an extra spin in the middle? is this in-gyro spinning? something else?

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 22 Oct 2007 17:03

shredzilla wrote:
Jeremy wrote:Plant rule? What plant rule?

I would say that planting or not planting on an ingyro clipper makes no difference to the name of the move. In fact I would tend to assume a plant unless stated. If somebody said that they hit "inspyro clipper" I would assume the really accentuated the clipper - doing it "symple" style.
Well according to definition, you don't plant on gyro correct? ie. gyro mirage, mobius, vortex, etc. - no plant. Therefore my assumption was you do the same for ingyro.

The whole plant thing is surely not used any more. Mobius is a clip set back spinning near torque. It's still a mobius if you plant or don't plant. The move is ultimately easier and looks better if you don't plant, but if you have problems with balance or whatever and you decide to plant, that's ok too. Spyro has come to refer to anything gyro symposium. Gyro refers to anything spinning near side. In-gyro is anything far spinning near side, and in-spyro is anything in-gyro symposium. It's clearly not necessary to have different names for sets based on if you plant or not.

shredzilla · Post by **shredzilla** » 22 Oct 2007 18:06

Okay, I didn't know the no plant rule had been ditched. Either way though the concept still stands. You can do a stylie mobius, vortex, gyro mirage, dlo, etc. with no plant, but when it comes to ingyro you must plant on these moves because it's impossible to do them without planting unless you go symposium. I know I'm probably the only person that finds this fascinating, but it's just neat that ingyro and inspinning bring an extra dimension to them instead of it just being op direction.

Sporatical_Distractions · Post by **Sporatical_Distractions** » 23 Oct 2007 06:38

janis wrote: Also what's the name when you do something like an ingyro mirage, but with an extra spin in the middle? is this in-gyro spinning? something else?

I believe that would be called inspinning gyro mirage. because the inspin comes before the gyro mirage.

if you were to do a (backspin) instead, it would be spinning gyro mirage.

janis · Post by **janis** » 23 Oct 2007 16:09

thanks

slapdash21 · Post by **slapdash21** » 24 Oct 2007 10:00

what about starting it zooming and then continuing one more full spin? is that zooming spinning?

Darkshredder · Post by **Darkshredder** » 24 Oct 2007 11:49

gyro isn't 'no plant' anymore? huh. kinda takes the fun out of doing gyro things now. Now no plant is just a style thing. Not like it was much more than that before anyway.