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All time top competition shred 30 scores

Post by max » 23 May 2006 01:44

I just mailed Lon about an idea I had. I was reading the annual worlds rankings topic and thought: "why not have a list of all top shred 30 scores acheived in competition?". Shred 30 has the advantage that it is trivial to rank players between themselves. Instead of having a annual ranking, why not just rank the all time best scores in this event?

I think this would be a great addition to Lon's record list (on a separate page): a shred 30 score list:

SCORE | PLAYER | DATE | EVENT | VIDEO LINK (if existing)

maybe only keep the top 20 / 30 / 100? What do you guys think? If you think that this could be a good idea, post the top shred 30 scores here and I'll order and list them.

edit: Thanks Uranos for getting the ball rolling:

1. 271.69 - Vasek Klouda - 2005 World Champs Shred 30 Semi-Final
http://www.zavezniki.com/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=48

2. 268 - Jorden Moir - 2006 US Open
http://www.footbag.org/gallery/show/9685

3. 264 - Vasek Klouda - 2005 Footjam Shred 30 Final

4. 262 - David Clavens - 2006 US Open
http://www.footbag.org/gallery/show/9685

5. 257.1 - Vasek Klouda- Euros 2006

6. 256.88 - Vasek Klouda - 2005 Worlds round 1

7. 253.13 - Vasek Klouda - 2006 Danish Championship Shred Semi-Final
http://www.footbag.org/gallery/show/-10120

8. 252 - Lon Smith - 2005 SJFF4
http://freedomfootbags.com/video/tourna ... 30_lon.avi

9. 251.33 - Vasek Klouda - 2006 Danish Championship Shred Final
http://www.footbag.org/gallery/show/-10120


10. 251 - Vasek Klouda - 2003 World Champs Shred 30 final

11. 247.741 - Jim Penske - US Open 2006
http://www.footbag.org/gallery/show/9685

12. 247.74 - Felix Zenger - NYJ Shred 30
http://www.kapsi.fi/~jfk/video/FelixNYJ06shred30.wmv

13. 247 - Jim Penske - 3rd Annual Montana Freestyle Jam.

14. 243.9 - Vasek Klouda - 2005 Euros Final

15. 243.87 - Jorden Moir - 2006 Worlds Final
http://www.missoulafootbagalliance.com/ ... hred30.mp4

16. 242.8 - Vasek Klouda - 2004 Worlds

17. 235.6 -Vasek Klouda- 2005 Worlds Shred Finals
http://v.footbag.org/media/manual/1st_s ... Klouda.wmv

18. 234.55 -Felix Zenger- Chilly Philly 2005
http://v.footbag.org/media/513/chillyphilly2005.wmv

19. 234- Honza Weber -2005 Worlds Semis
http://v.footbag.org/media/manual/2nd_s ... nWeber.wmv

20. 232- Honza Weber- 2005 Worlds Shred Finals
http://v.footbag.org/media/manual/2nd_JanWeber.wmv

21. 230.13 - Honza Weber - 2006 Worlds Shred Finals
http://www.missoulafootbagalliance.com/ ... hred30.mp4

22. 228.63 - Jim Penske - 1st Santa Cruz Invitational
(if paradon/barfly/ddd are counted as unique, then it scored 236.38)

23. 226.88 - Jorden Moir- 2005 Danish Footbag Champs
http://www.footbag.org/gallery/show/-5850

24. 224 - Vasek Klouda - 2006 Worlds Finals
http://www.missoulafootbagalliance.com/ ... red30.mp4
25. 222.94 - Felix Zenger -2005 Worlds Semis
http://v.footbag.org/media/manual/3rd_s ... Zenger.wmv

26. 221.8 - David Clavens- 2006 East Coast Champs

27. 220.74 - Honza Weber -2005 Worlds, Round 1

28. 217.48 - Lon Smith - 1st Santa Cruz Invitational

29. 215.72 -Scott Bevier -2005 Worlds Round 1

30. 213.88 -Juho Marjo - -2005 Worlds Round 1

31. 213.88 -Toni Paakonen -2005 Worlds Round 1

32. 210.25 - Jorden Moir- 2005 Worlds Shred Finals
http://v.footbag.org/media/manual/3rd_s ... enMoir.wmv
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Post by Uranos » 23 May 2006 01:55

1. 271 - Vasek Klouda - 2005 World Champs Shred 30 Final
2. 264 - VAsek Klouda - 2005 Footjam Shred 30 Final
3. 251 - Vasek Klouda - 2003 World Champs Shred 30 final
4. 247 - Jim Penske - ?????? On Randall's new vid.


These are all the top i could think of..
Only one thing. Felix had a shred 30 at NYJ this year and it score about 250 but i lost the vid and i forgot the exact scores....
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Post by Outsider » 23 May 2006 03:50

I just mailed Lon about an idea I had.
Speaking of Lon, didn't he score 254 at the SJFF late last year? Whatever that score was, I was pretty much blown away... what an awesome run!
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Post by max » 23 May 2006 04:24

Speaking of Lon, didn't he score 254 at the SJFF late last year? Whatever that score was, I was pretty much blown away... what an awesome run!
thanks Jon, I just checked, and according to http://www.all4limbs.com/results.php he scored a 252 at SJFF4
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Post by brian relly » 23 May 2006 04:29

1. 271 - Vasek Klouda - 2005 World Champs Shred 30 Final

Semifinal.

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Post by krawallier » 23 May 2006 05:42

around 268 in first round at euros 2005 - vasek, that is of course.
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Post by max » 23 May 2006 06:41

around 268 in first round at euros 2005 - vasek, that is of course.
I had a hard time finding the Euros 2005 results, but could not find the shred 30 qualifying scores. I did add vasek's finals score to the list though.
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Post by Chris Holden » 23 May 2006 11:36

Anyone willing to write out these runs move for move? This would be a great addition to this thread. I'll get the ones I can find vids for!

Jim Penske - 3rd Annual Montana Freestyle Jam:

phoenix > blurry whirl > stepping whirl > sidewalk > blurrier > blur > pixie dod > blizzard > dimwalk > sidewalk > blizzard > paradon > pdx whirl > pdx whirl > barfly > barfly > ddd > crispy torque > ripwalk > spin butter > crispy torque > ripwalk > spin butter > blurry whirl > blurriest > pdx torque > motion > pdx blender > ps whirl > scorpion's tail

(edit: fixed the dod/ddd mix-up)
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Post by habitat » 23 May 2006 13:20

the ?????? your looking for is 3rd Annual Montana Freestyle Jam
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Post by sen » 23 May 2006 15:03

Vasek Klouda (CZE) - 242.79 2004 worlds

Vasek Klouda 256.88. 2005 worlds round one

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Post by dyalander » 23 May 2006 18:34

Would I be right in saying that a problem with such a list is that some of these scores are inflated by lenient unique rules? I'd be suprised if they were all the product of the same rules. It's a problam that can be fixed if we have video or a list of the content of the runs because then wwe could just rescore them under the current set of rules.
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Post by Chris Holden » 23 May 2006 19:45

Lon Smith - 2005 SJFF4
http://freedomfootbags.com/video/tourna ... 30_lon.avi

blur > legbeater > blizzard > parkwalk > sidewalk > pdx drifter > pdx torque > pdx whirl > spin pdx whirl > mobuis > torque > barfly > spin butterfly > ripwalk > blur > legbeater > osis > barfly > blizzard > parkwalk > sidewalk > pdx drifter > pdx torque > pdx whirl > spin pdx whirl > mobius > torque > barfly > spin butterfly > tomahawk > osis > pdx blender
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Post by Jeremy » 23 May 2006 22:54

Yeah according to the official IFPA rules Jim had a barfly and a DDD (I presume that's what Chris meant since you can't hit dod out of clipper) that weren't unique - since he'd already hit paradon on that side. Not sure how that effects the score (maybe it was taken into account) - but I know that one of Vasek's score from worlds 2005 semis had a ddd that wasn't counted as a unique for the same reason.

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Post by Jimpenske » 24 May 2006 13:26

DDD are unique from paradons and barflies. I wouldn't say that toe set mirage and clipper set mirage are the same move. So what's the difference between barfly, paradon, and ddd. They're set differently so they're unique.

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Post by Jimpenske » 24 May 2006 13:33

On another note:

I wanted to give credit to Vasek. My shred 30 was very similar to his Footjam shred 30. I just put a phoenix at the first and changed the fives at the end. And I didn't do a whirlwind. Thanks to Vasek for setting the bar so high.

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Post by Chris Holden » 24 May 2006 16:53

1. 271 - Vasek Klouda - 2005 World Champs Shred 30 Semi-Final
http://www.footbag.org/worlds2005/media_videos.php

parkwalk > sidewalk > step whirl > blurrier > blizzard > pixie same whirl > blur > dimwalk > sidewalk > blurriest > food processor > pdx whirl > pdx whirl > ddd > barfly > barfly > crispy torque > ripwalk > spin butterfly > crispy torque > ripwalk > spin butterfly > blurry whirl > blurry whirl > ps whirl > ps whirl > symp whirl > spin pdx whirl > scorpion's tail > spin ps whirl > spin pdx blender

Thanks Jim for linking me this vid. As always, if anyone wants to double-check, that's great! Man, this one was ridiculous.

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Post by dyalander » 24 May 2006 17:45

Jim said:
DDD are unique from paradons and barflies. I wouldn't say that toe set mirage and clipper set mirage are the same move. So what's the difference between barfly, paradon, and ddd. They're set differently so they're unique.
Lets not turn this thread into an argument over what uniques should be. That said the reason I support the current rule is because my understanding is that the unique element is designed to bring variety into the equation. More specifically I understand the intention to promote different types of moves rather than different variations of moves. I'm not saying you don't have a legitimate argument, i feel you gain far more with the rule as it is. Speaking of which for those who don't know:
The current rule is (from the 2006 edition of the ifpa rule book article 509. <http>)
Unique Move: For the purpose of Composition Judging, a unique move is any move containing an add value whose add components are different from any other move done in that performance. Spin directions and leg direction in dexterity moves are considered different; each side of the body is considered different; moves coming from a different set are not unique unless that set forces another add component (i.e. body, in the case of "paradox" moves) to be added.
So according to the current rule DDD, barfly, paradon are not unique. Obviously some comps have deviated from the rule in the past which is why some ppls scores are now not comparable to other people's scores without recalculation. Furthermore because the ifpa doesn't enforce its rule book as strongly as it should this debate will continue every worlds untill the ifpa finally picks a rule and makes everyone stick to it.
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Post by Chris Holden » 25 May 2006 15:46

Please, don't derail. Make a new threads for discussion.


2. - Vasek Klouda - 2005 Footjam Shred 30 Final
http://www.munich-footbag.de/video.htm
blurry whirl > stepping whirl > sidewalk > blurrier > blizzard > pixie dod > blur > dimwalk > sidewalk > blizzard > paradon > barfly > pdx whirl > pdx whirl > barfly > ddd > crispy torque > ripwalk > spin butter > crispy torque > ripwalk > spin butter > blurry whirl > superfly > ps whirl > ps whirl > spin pdx whirl > scorpion's tail > spin ps whirl > mobius

Found this vid today (thanks stephen).

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Post by BalinorNZ » 04 Jun 2006 05:18

Awesome idea :) it's great to see what the best scores ever are!

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Post by Jeremy » 04 Jun 2006 08:06

Chris Holden wrote:1. 271 - Vasek Klouda - 2005 World Champs Shred 30 Semi-Final
http://www.footbag.org/worlds2005/media_videos.php

parkwalk > sidewalk > step whirl > blurrier > blizzard > pixie same whirl > blur > dimwalk > sidewalk > blurriest > food processor > pdx whirl > pdx whirl > ddd > barfly > barfly > crispy torque > ripwalk > spin butterfly > crispy torque > ripwalk > spin butterfly > blurry whirl > blurry whirl > ps whirl > ps whirl > symp whirl > spin pdx whirl > scorpion's tail > spin ps whirl > spin pdx blender

Thanks Jim for linking me this vid. As always, if anyone wants to double-check, that's great! Man, this one was ridiculous.
Between 10 and 14 shuffle moves depending on how you define shuffle and 6 spinning moves - despite the myth that shred 30s these days are all about shuffle - at best less than half the shred 30 is shuffle...

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