Is it racist to be anti-american?

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"Anti-Americanism" is not racism unless it is committed by an Anglo, and only if they are critical of an American person of color, or critical of that person's policy beliefs.




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"There is no doubt that Mexicans, filled with dignity, willingness and ability to work, are doing jobs that not even blacks want to do there in the United States."

-Vincente Fox
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HighDemonslayer wrote:
"There is no doubt that Mexicans, filled with dignity, willingness and ability to work, are doing jobs that not even blacks want to do there in the United States."

-Vincente Fox
Always be skeptical of somebody who quotes people, but doesn`t spell their names correctly. For all you know, they may be quoting somebody who has a similar name, but isn`t that person, and holds different beliefs. For example, I may know somebody named Nathen Oates, who once said:

"I love footbag. I engage in intelligent debate, and actually research my opinions before posting. I have friends, and people like me, because I don`t suck the joy out of everything."

To the passing observer, they might get confused and think that was a quote by Nathan Oates, aka HighDemonSlayer, and therefore form a mistaken impression of him.

Also beware of people who misattribute quotes to other people. Often, they do this because of some sort of agenda. I`ve received forward of stupid things George Bush allegedly said. He definitely says lots of stupid things, but I recognized some quotes from a similar forward I received years ago about Dan Quayle. :?
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Post by zachatree »

id make a joke about how im anti-australian, but there are to many cool australians :oops:



how could being anti-amarican be racisum? amarican isnt a race. there are actuly more racenalitys in amarica then any other one country. more mixtures of race then any other one country. what im geting at is if your anti-amarican an you'd consiter that racisum, then your racist agenst every raceinality there is, inclueding your own.
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"May the force be with you, always."

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I must have touched a nerve.

I'll repeat the quote from the earlier post, but with the shorter name.

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"There is no doubt that Mexicans, filled with dignity, willingness and ability to work, are doing jobs that not even blacks want to do there in the United States."


-V. Fox (President of Mexico, in case you didn't know who he was)

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I mean, does it actually hurt so bad, to have to read Fox's comment?


President Fox's comment is just reflective of his "light" administration, and his nation's attitudes when it comes to people with darker skin.

So perhaps it is racism that comes with the anti-americanism coming from our neighbor Mexico.

Darker skinned peoples have to know their place in Mexican society.... and that place is at the bottom.


I apologize if I ruined C-Fan's fun in this "Anti-american-racism" thread.

I'll make a point in the future to ONLY point out statements that may not hurt C-Fan's feelings.

We must be sensitive and censor ourselves, we absolutely must not make anyone uncomfortable.


p.s.

Surely Mexico's racism will not have any effect on America, and certainly not on America's black population.

Blacks would never be driven from their neighborhoods, or forced out of the industries they were traditionally employed at.




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HighDemonslayer wrote: I apologize if I ruined C-Fan's fun in this "Anti-american-racism" thread.
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HighDemonslayer wrote: I'll make a point in the future to ONLY point out statements that may not hurt C-Fan's feelings.
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Dude, I just made fun of your spelling. Chill out, go hang out with your {friend(s)}, get laid with your {girlfriend}, play footbag (or whatever your hobby is), relax. 8)

Peace homie. 8)
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Post by zachatree »

ya ken seems to think every one can spell perfect, must be a japanese thing.


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Post by slapdash21 »

must be a japanese thing.
hoo boy :D


in any case, i think the real question is not whether is racist to be anti-American, but is it anti-American to be racist?

yeah...im kidding, AND that made no sense. i shouldnt even submit this....

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Post by HighDemonslayer »

I was just poking fun at Jeremy's use of "AnaRkin" earlier, I dont have NET access at my new place so I have to hurriedly type at this Coffee shop. And the keyboard only has letters on about 80% of its keys.



My apologies to Vincente Fox, whoever and wherever he is.

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Post by sorin »

My apologies to Vincente Fox, whoever and wherever he is.
Oh c'mon, he's Tha Prez of your neighbour Mexico :?
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Post by ted »

sorin wrote:
My apologies to Vincente Fox, whoever and wherever he is.
Oh c'mon, he's Tha Prez of your neighbour Mexico :?
That would be Vicente Fox. :wink:
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Post by sorin »

Just me being smart again, ill stop it right away, it's just the One who hates demons quoted V. Fox and added the title of president, but misspelled his name
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Here's a few video teasers from a film taken at a somewhat recent protest in Baldwin Park, Ca .

The target of the protest is not apparent in the video ,but can be found elsewhere.


http://www.kirkbytv.com/Teaser1_15fps.wmv

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http://www.kirkbytv.com/Teaser3_15fps.wmv


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"Intifada! Intifada! Death to the readnecks! Death to the readnecks! "


"(Hail).. Zarqawi, the gringo killer!, Yes! Yes! Yes!"


"...To bad Osama bin laden didn't have a hydrogen bomb to drop on that jewish, shit-hole town Manhattan."




Feel free to laugh at the injured elderly woman, if you like.

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Thanx for wanting me dead bro... and people say america is bloodthirsty. It doesnt matter if this is a joke, its plain stupid.
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To the citizens of the United States of America, In the light of your failure to elect a suitable President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1.
a) You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.
b) The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters.
c) You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z'(pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise".
d) You will learn that the suffix 'burgh is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed".
e) There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.

2.
a) There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf.
b) The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize".

3.
a) You should learn to distinguish the British and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. British accents are not limited to Cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier).
b) You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon". If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4.
a) Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast British actors to play British characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.

5.
a) You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

6.
a) You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game.
b) Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American"football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005.
c) You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders" which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

7.
a) You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky.
b) The Russians have never been the bad guys.
c) "Merde" is French for "Shit".
d) You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

8.
a) July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but only in Britain. It will be called "Indecisive Day".

9.
a) All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.
b) All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts.
c) You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

10.
a) You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps". Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat.
b) The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer, which should be served warm and flat.
c) Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

11.
a) As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

12.
a) The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer", and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager".
b) The substances formerly known as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Knat's Urine", with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Knat's Urine". This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Ceské Budejovicé a.k.a. Budweis, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

13.
a) From December 1st the UK will harmonise petrol (or "Gasoline" as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) prices with the former USA.
b) The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon - get used to it).

14.
a) You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

15.
a) Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.


Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776). Thank you for your cooperation :mrgreen:
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No i dont think its racists at all. Sometimes im ashamed to be an American because of the sterotypes attatched to us by other countries. really bothers me sometimes, but im extremely un-American so i dont take it personaly.
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A study just released says 1 in every 7 Americans is Hispanic.

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"Hispanic" means alot of things.


Here is one definition I found surfing:

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The word Hispanic is a generic term derived from the word Espana, which is the Spanish word for Spain. People of any race who trace their family origin to a Spanish-speaking country are Hispanic. Hispanic people can be of any race. They constitute a pluralistic society of many national origins.

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Theoretically, you could create a racial name that includes 100% of the population.




That definition was (the first page I looked)on a Boy Scouts of America page about Hispanic demographics in the "future". The fact that their page came up on the first google page is interesting.


The page begs for crude jokes their "gay" issues.


for entertainment purposes only:
http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-972.html
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Post by Jeremy »

No Zach, he's not back. That post was made by the other Damon Mathews - the one from San Diego who didn't get banned. There are two Damon Mathews who post on this forum.

Nice rhyme Damon. Are you saying we shouldn't discuss this? Or we should keep things more civil? I agree wholeheartedly with the second sentiment

Great to see you back. Or it would be if you were the Damon who got banned :D ;)
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