Did I say it would be good for Canada?BainbridgeShred wrote:OMG YESH A FINANCIAL MELTDOWN IN WALL ST. WOULD ROK FOR CANADA!!@Z!@!Soon we'll get to see how the US likes getting financially owned by Asia and Europe, not to mention brutally sodomized by the Middle-East. A neat little turn of events after the years of modern imperialism which the US has brought upon the third world.
Take it bitches....take it.
*shaking my head at idiots who think a collapse of the current financial structure would be a good thing for the world (or their country, especially if ur right fucking above us and mimic our every cultural nuance [that show abotu trailer parks being the exception to the rule])
If you want proof that Canada has already vested their interest with the US, take a look at "The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America". Or the fact that your country has already conformed to American security, energy, military, and trade policies in order to ensure an open border. Yes, if you don't like those facts about your country, maybe an economic fallout down south is a good thing for people of your kind, but don't expect the luxury of spending 30 dollars (USD/Loonie) on hackey sacks.
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Whether or not, you're still a pretentious idiot*shaking my head at idiots who think a collapse of the current financial structure would be a good thing for the world
And it isn't cause your Canadian. Anyone who would knowingly cheer the collapse of the American economy without looking at the ramifications for individual people of the world is despicable, and you should be ashamed of yourself, bottom line.

I think it depends what kind of time frame you're looking at. No doubt a suffering US economy is bad news for most of the world, and will result in an increase in hardship for a few years, especially for the developed world.
However given the grossly disproportionate distribution of wealth in the world at the moment and also the amount of power the US has, and what they use that power for, especially in actions that appear to lead to greater divisiveness instead of unity, and also the example they set, that makes it much easier for countries like Israel and Australia to also ignore their international obligations, I think a redistribution of power and wealth across the world will probably be a good thing in the long term.
I think it will probably even be a good thing for the US, because economic factors seem like the only thing capable of making the general American population more energy efficient and less wasteful.
Of course it's hard to predict the outcomes, and I think caution is needed. However given that we could save about 80% of the worlds energy just through becoming more efficient, and given the environmental crisis that is already upon us, an economic downturn seems like it could be the boot to kick the world in the direction of sustainability. It's pretty much proven that the only things that achieve positive outcomes for society are legislation and economic advantages (the population won't start using energy saving light globes and having shorter showers just because people say it's a good thing to do), so this could be a good thing for us.
However given the grossly disproportionate distribution of wealth in the world at the moment and also the amount of power the US has, and what they use that power for, especially in actions that appear to lead to greater divisiveness instead of unity, and also the example they set, that makes it much easier for countries like Israel and Australia to also ignore their international obligations, I think a redistribution of power and wealth across the world will probably be a good thing in the long term.
I think it will probably even be a good thing for the US, because economic factors seem like the only thing capable of making the general American population more energy efficient and less wasteful.
Of course it's hard to predict the outcomes, and I think caution is needed. However given that we could save about 80% of the worlds energy just through becoming more efficient, and given the environmental crisis that is already upon us, an economic downturn seems like it could be the boot to kick the world in the direction of sustainability. It's pretty much proven that the only things that achieve positive outcomes for society are legislation and economic advantages (the population won't start using energy saving light globes and having shorter showers just because people say it's a good thing to do), so this could be a good thing for us.
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Exactly, economic downturns will reduce American consumption, at least.
Massive Chinese increases should not be ignored, when assessing future penalties the U.S. needs to be forced into conceding, even when we all are riding bicycles and pulling rickshaws, for our new overlords.
Even if we are not the leaders in pollution anymore, we need to do penance for 50 years of eco-crimes.
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Massive Chinese increases should not be ignored, when assessing future penalties the U.S. needs to be forced into conceding, even when we all are riding bicycles and pulling rickshaws, for our new overlords.
Even if we are not the leaders in pollution anymore, we need to do penance for 50 years of eco-crimes.
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Well China has far higher environmental standards than the US. American cars can't even be sold in the US, because they produce too much greenhouse gasses (hence the massive slump in the US car industry).
If the rest of the world reduced their greenhouse gasses to the amount China produce per person, that would be amazing. While China is a long way from perfect, and largely the reason for their low emissions is because they're still so poor, they're doing a much better effort than most of the developed world.
If the rest of the world reduced their greenhouse gasses to the amount China produce per person, that would be amazing. While China is a long way from perfect, and largely the reason for their low emissions is because they're still so poor, they're doing a much better effort than most of the developed world.
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I can't see how that can be right. Please make me understand why people in the US wouldn't buy American cars because they produce too much greenhouse gases. As if Americans cared.. they really don't give a shit. That is their whole mentality problem if you ask me. They way they shave, wash use gasoline etc are all evidence for a absolutely no environmental consciousness.Jeremy wrote:Well China has far higher environmental standards than the US. American cars can't even be sold in the US, because they produce too much greenhouse gases (hence the massive slump in the US car industry).
They way I see it the only reason why the American car industry is sucking out is because they produce really crappy cars at a very high price. One the one side you have Germany just kicking their shit inside out with cars that have way higher quality even though they are expensive and on the other side you have Asian cars that are cheaper but still live up to high quality standards. And since they can't export their shitty ass cars to other countries because of higher emission standards they are pretty much sucking out all the way to the bank.

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Sorry, that was an erroneous statement.
It should have read that American cars can't be sold in China because they don't meet the environmental standards. Of course some American cars do meet the environmental standards, but many do not, and because China is the biggest growing car market in the world at the moment, this has been terrible for the American car industry.
It should have read that American cars can't be sold in China because they don't meet the environmental standards. Of course some American cars do meet the environmental standards, but many do not, and because China is the biggest growing car market in the world at the moment, this has been terrible for the American car industry.
In response to Jeremy's posts:
I would disagree that China has been terrible for the US car companies. US companies are certainly selling plenty of cars in China, Buick which is a General Motors brand has been the number 1 selling car in China for a while.
The main problem for the US car industry seems to be the change in consumer tastes in their domestic market as more people are changing to Japanese and European brands. This is probably in part due to their better fuel efficiency.
Another big problem has been the high costs for US companies, GM almost went broke because it couldn't pay its employee benefits.
I agree it's good to see the shift away from US economic dominance but it certainly doesn't guarantee things will be any better in the future, in-fact it could also get a lot worse, environmentally speaking.
I would disagree that China has been terrible for the US car companies. US companies are certainly selling plenty of cars in China, Buick which is a General Motors brand has been the number 1 selling car in China for a while.
The main problem for the US car industry seems to be the change in consumer tastes in their domestic market as more people are changing to Japanese and European brands. This is probably in part due to their better fuel efficiency.
Another big problem has been the high costs for US companies, GM almost went broke because it couldn't pay its employee benefits.
I agree it's good to see the shift away from US economic dominance but it certainly doesn't guarantee things will be any better in the future, in-fact it could also get a lot worse, environmentally speaking.
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Also now since the dollar has been taking a toll (imo) I have read that it is actually supposed to be a way of getting more companies to produce in the USA to upsize on exporting. Kinda weird way to try doing that imo but hey I am no economy major.Jeremy wrote:Of course some American cars do meet the environmental standards

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