Stitching 12 panel

[yippy]

ok, I wanna try start stitching 12 panels, can I use the pent from this? http://www.modified.in/footbag/viewtopi ... sc&start=0

1. Is it just like a 32 by overlapping two pents and putting 6 stitches on each side.
2. Is Microsuede good enough to just start on
3. Where do I put the knots?
4. Is 0.9 inches a good sized pent for a golf ball sized bag?

[Wasabi]

1. Yes and no. When stitching a 32, you have to consider stitching hexagons and bleed holes into a bag, therefore stitching in full circular motion around each pentagon. 12 panels are slightly different. You start with a flower, but you'll eventually have to connect an already stitched pentagon right at the end of it to fully complete the cycle. The way the stitches would be facing would have a slight alteration in the 12 panel as well.
2. Anything can be used, but if you have fabric available use it. Microsuede is a good fabric to start imo.
3. Depends on how you want to knot, but the conventional method is to knot whenever and wherever you completed the pentagon. Itr's pretty straightforward.
4. Perfect. I'm experimenting with 0.87. A full inch was too big of a template for me.

Hope this helps. 12-panels are super fun to stitch.

[yippy]

ok thanks and also, I forgot to add for 1st and 6th stitch you stitch it to the adjacent pent right? Just like 32 in connecting pent to the hex

[Wasabi]

Yup.

[yippy]

Does it matter whether the 1st stitch in the pent goes in through good side or out from the bad side?

[Wasabi]

The good sides of the facile should be pressed against and adjacent of one another. Your eyes should be focused on the bad portion of the facile, since you are stitching the bag inside out. Keep your stitches straight, clean and in equal portions. Gather when necessary.

[Roy]

Just to let you know, there is a consistent way to stitch a 12 panel. I like to stitch three seams before I tie off. That way, I tie off ten times and the bag is stitched evenly throughout. If you were to stitch all the way around a pent, there would be no way to keep an even amount of seams and gather on every panel.
I should write a tutorial on this since it takes some intense thinking to get everything perfectly laid out.

[yippy]

I think you should

[Wasabi]

The same can be said about stitching a 32 panel. It's just a matter of putting in more work than it is necessary.

I personally think that that method would be a waste of time and thread, by stitching at one side and then tying off immediately. Plus, pentagons overlap other pentagons, so whatever you do in one area will still affect the bag in another. I suppose this would make for more flexible corners if you tie it firmly without any excess thread, but you can easily do it in one clean stroke around the pentagon with patience and accuracy.

I guess I said too much. I didn't mean to be very critical about that way of stitching, but I wanted to add my input and opinion on it.

[yippy]

well I'm up to my 7th panel and I need tips on how to knot properly, when i do them they're like 1cm away from the fabric so there's heaps of room for the fabric to move around. My Stiches are also really visible but my main concerns are my knots, I sort've make a loop and put the floss through. Is there any special easy way to do it?

[Wasabi]

Perfect, I use floss.

I just just loop into another stitch, knot it, then knot it again. I cut, then I burn off the excess thread on the knot into a small little bulb.

That's the gist of it really. I'm not sure about that 1 cm distance though. I'm more helpful with a hands on approach than the internet.