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sPinko-Mania
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BainbridgeShred wrote: "Looking at how old the universe probably is, couldn't it have just come up by chance? Sure I suppose it is possible, but I doubt it would have judging from the circumstances and obvious odds of that.
I think a common mistake is to look at a terribly improbable event and declare thqat based on statistics and probability, it could not have happened randomly. What this fails to take into accunt is that almost everything that happens is incredibly improbable. Jeremy already commented on this, but here is an example that made it clear for me in the past. Flip a coin 30 times. The chance of you getting the exact sequence you did is about 1 in a billion. Yet nobody will argue that was not random. Same with evolution, the path it took was incredibly improbable, yet there were so many other improbable paths that the fact the path it took was highly improbable is meaningless.
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sPinko-Mania wrote:
BainbridgeShred wrote: "Looking at how old the universe probably is, couldn't it have just come up by chance? Sure I suppose it is possible, but I doubt it would have judging from the circumstances and obvious odds of that.
I think a common mistake is to look at a terribly improbable event and declare thqat based on statistics and probability, it could not have happened randomly. What this fails to take into accunt is that almost everything that happens is incredibly improbable. Jeremy already commented on this, but here is an example that made it clear for me in the past. Flip a coin 30 times. The chance of you getting the exact sequence you did is about 1 in a billion. Yet nobody will argue that was not random. Same with evolution, the path it took was incredibly improbable, yet there were so many other improbable paths that the fact the path it took was highly improbable is meaningless.
Very, very well put. I'll remember that every time someone brings that point up with me. Thanks.
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What was there before the big bang, isn't a question that makes sense. Before space existed there was no time.

Everything needs a cause isn't a good arguement because then why doesn't your god need a cause?

Protons are made of quarks, 2 up quarks and one down quark infact.

Do Not Needlessly Multiply Entities. God is an irrelevant addition to logic and science.
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The existance of this universe implies the existance of an infinite amount of universes.

WE are the gods. We give meaning to somethingness.
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