Boxer Stands Up

[Tsiangkun]

In a refreshing change from the 2000 electoral college proceedings, this year a Senator will endorse the objections of the house.

U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer sent the following letter to Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones on January 5, 2005

January 6, 2005

The Honorable Stephanie Tubbs Jones
1009 Longworth H.O.B.
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, D.C. 20515

Dear Representative Tubbs Jones:

I am in receipt of your letter that spelled out concerns about the election irregularities in Ohio during the November 2004 election.

The fact that you are from Ohio and that you are a former judge gives great weight and much credibility to the points you cited and to your plea that these issues be addressed by the Congress.

I was particularly moved by your point that it is virtually impossible to get official House consideration of the whole issue of election reform, including these irregularities.

I have concluded that objecting to the electoral votes from Ohio is the only immediate way to bring these issues to light by allowing you to have a two-hour debate to let the American people know the facts surrounding Ohio’s election.

I will therefore join you in your objection to the certification of Ohio’s electoral votes. Attached is my signature on a copy of your written objection.

Sincerely,

Barbara Boxer
United States Senator

[Tsiangkun]

Kucinich To Join Challenge To Ohio's Electoral College Vote On House Floor Today


WASHINGTON -- January 6 -- Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH) will join with Members of the Congressional Black Caucus, today, in challenging the certification of Ohio's Electoral College vote.

Citing numerous voting irregularities in his home state of Ohio, Kucinich will take to the House floor to highlight problems with our electoral process, and call for real election reform.

During this afternoon's Joint Session of Congress to count the Electoral College ballots, Kucinich will join with the Congressional Black Caucus in objecting to Ohio's ballot. If the House members are joined by a Senator they will force a two hour debate on both the House and Senate floor on their objection.

"While I do not seek to over turn the results of the November elections, I do believe that the great number of voting irregularities in Ohio need to be brought to the nation's attention," stated Kucinich. "Our nation needs real election reform to ensure that the cornerstone of our democracy, the right to vote, is protected for all Americans."

Today's Joint Session of Congress will begin today at 1pm.

[DoctorJay]

I do not know , if I translated all things in the right manner.

I understand it like this
there were a survey of college students to prove the disability of these electoral vote machines . Now this statement is supported by a senator.


I do not understand how this topic is not solved up to now . how can such an instrument be permitted for such a vote (2004) if the reliabiltiy is not 100 percent sure.


Moreover is it possible to achieve any consequences with this ? Or is the only thing that these kind of voting method will be forbidden for the next election

[Tsiangkun]

Basically, If one is to believe the populace is divided equally into two halves as the election indicated, THEN we would expect errors, miscounts, and other irregularities to occur in a way that influences each party equally.

Statistically this is NOT what happened. The odds of the irregularities occuring from random chance is 1:250,000,000, as calculated by one of the US's most respected stats persons.
Nearly every reported voting irregularity benefited Bush.

So, they are having a two hour debate on this prior to the electoral college vote. There will be no change in the outcome of the election.

[Tsiangkun]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=390281
[/quote]The Senate session lasted just over an hour and ended when the chamber voted 74-1 to uphold Ohio's votes. Boxer was the lone vote.