Blurry symp torque by Rafal Kaleta(PL)

wolfpac444 · Post by **wolfpac444** » 14 Feb 2005 21:14

For those who cannot see the video:

HooD · Post by **HooD** » 14 Feb 2005 21:47

As for the not torque'ing enough yatta yatta debate. He starts off pointing his body forward, and he finishes the same spot, not a whole lot of spin, but that indeed was a lot of torque'ing to pull that off. I was suprised by how well he controlled the bag as he finished the symp torque. It came straight back up as he finished, it didn't fly off to the side at all, he could have easily bailed any move out of that ! Props !

TwistedTorque · Post by **TwistedTorque** » 14 Feb 2005 22:15

I think it's sick.
Stepping PS Torque man...

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 14 Feb 2005 22:30

Thanks for posting the pics Mike! You kick ass. I still hope to see it myself, sounds huge. Didn`t Brad Nelson hit this like 2 years ago?

BalinorNZ · Post by **BalinorNZ** » 14 Feb 2005 23:37

Sure he hit it, but it was so scooped that it was virtually imposible to hit anything apart from handcatch out of, if he keeps doing it like that he will never hit it in a run.

max · Post by **max** » 15 Feb 2005 01:05

I also saw this yesterday.
That move looks DAMN HARD. It also looks pulled. I think the ps torque looks a bit like a reverse swivel with the dex done in front and not in xbod.

Anz · Post by **Anz** » 15 Feb 2005 04:51

IMO that was ugly Torque.
If your ankles cranck (sp?) you can do Osis after anything, but Torque needs twist to be a torque.

If he had done the trick frigid it would have been the sweetest ever. That looked like he was doing it so, but bailed to spin.

mosher · Post by **mosher** » 15 Feb 2005 06:54

I'd say his hips performed 60% of the torque twist but his upper body didn't turn at all.

Also, the only reason the bag didn't go shooting out to the side is because he ended his hugely scooped osis by tossing it up, not out.

He wound up facing the same way that he started, which is to say, he didn't get the spin.

ptaku · Post by **ptaku** » 15 Feb 2005 07:06

Clean and stylie isn't the same... Maybe this move performed by Rafal isn't done with good style, but it is definately clean! The set is 100% good, Miraging dex is 100% clean, the bag goes in front of his body, then back, and when it's going behind his back it's catchd on foot, and then a bit pulled out to crossbody... It's clean.

When Vasek is doing something like Mobius > Marius he actually hit something like Gyro Miraging os Frigidosis > Paradox Torque from Frigidosis... But nobody will tell him that he hasn't hit Mobius > Marius... And if he will hit in shred 30 sec. almost everybody would count it like 5 > 6, not 3 > 5... Yeah.. It looks awesome when he hits it this way...

Ogden 09/04 · Post by **Ogden 09/04** » 15 Feb 2005 19:21

i thought that there was so much torque in that clip, but its true, he does start and end up facinf the same way, so props for hitting it that way!

HG · Post by HG » 15 Feb 2005 19:37

i think thats one of the coolest 7 add tricks. I hate PS whirl tricks, and i dont think they deserve the pdx add, but torques deserve their paradox add and stepping into one without a plant is mad hard!

I dont care if he pulls it through, its all about style and not cleanliness. You cant say that his osis isnt clean, which means you cant say his torque isnt clean. He just has a different style.

Colin · Post by **Colin** » 15 Feb 2005 22:24

Oh come on. His osis is clean? Osis recieves a spin add. You're saying that he spun?

When you do a 'clean' osis, you're facing the opposite direction that you started.

*disclaimer* - Noone was more impressed by this move than I was. That was awesome. Don't change a thing about it, either. Noone here is debating weather you hit a huge and increadibly cool move. Everyone agrees on that.

hacksterbator · Post by **hacksterbator** » 15 Feb 2005 23:33

Newf wrote:Osis recieves a spin add. You're saying that he spun?

osis has a spin and recieves a bod add. now you could argue that since rakes get the bod add a pulled through osis should as well.

my opinion: is it clean? yes. is it well executed? no. is it a huge trick? yes. will i ever hit it? no. would i give him 7 adds? yes. will every one agree? no.

ptaku · Post by **ptaku** » 16 Feb 2005 03:37

hacksterbator wrote:my opinion: is it clean? yes. is it well executed? no. is it a huge trick? yes. will i ever hit it? no. would i give him 7 adds? yes. will every one agree? no.

I don't know if I understood this rhetorical question with your answer good and in good context, but I think that I'll agree with you