Traveling Style

sen · Post by **sen** » 31 May 2005 10:30

I've notice that some people seem to travel alot when they are playing. I think it looks kinda stupid when someone ends up halfway across the room from the circle they started in and was wondering what others thoughts were on this. I think the only reason I notice this is because I play in a small kitchen and can't move alot, and I watched WAY too much figure skating while growing up and traveling during a spin is a BIG no no.

DISCUSS!

professor · Post by **professor** » 31 May 2005 11:08

Well when you are in a circle you should try to stay in that circle or at least close to it. I've noticed that when I'm playing if I have to control where I'm going I can. You know, so I don't do a flying PS Whirling face kick on a fellow circle member.

In competetion I believe that you actually get judged on how much of your playing area you use. So it's actually beneficial for you to move around.

slapdash21 · Post by **slapdash21** » 31 May 2005 11:19

i tend to wander a bit. i think once im a couple feet away, i stop roaming though, because i cant see anyone in my peripheral (sp???) vision, so i feel like i have enough room to do whatever. i think a small amount of roaming is ok.

jon · Post by **jon** » 31 May 2005 11:25

I believe moving is a sign that the player does not have control. It means the player is setting that bag at an angle or that it is coming down at an angle which "typically" means something is going wrong. I find in my own game that once I start to travel I will usually drop soon after. I also see this in other people's games. Once they start moving a drop is soon to follow. Now that I play inside more often I find it much harder to string because of this lack of control. I am restricted in my indoor shred space and I belive it is helping my game and control. I believe that for all but a few moves there isnt ever really a reason to move a round.

IMHO moving around is sloppy and shows bad control.

SlashC · Post by **SlashC** » 31 May 2005 11:56

If I'm at crowded festival or something I'll infinity/mirage away from people who aren't paying attention.

I like it when some players move around cause it looks exciting as if they were about to drop, but they don't. Some players can throw down the trick no matter how wonky the set is.

If i'm shredding indoors and shuffle to a wall or something I'll osis away. I think moving around is OK as long as the bag stays up and the dex's stay clean.

sen · Post by **sen** » 31 May 2005 12:39

What Jon said is exactly what I'm talking about. When I play I'm in a VERY cramped space and am therefore forced to set STRAIGHT up.

This makes me think that players who set on an angle have less control. These players are still better than me, but have less contro over their tricks. . . or something like that.

HooD · Post by **HooD** » 31 May 2005 18:34

I don't believe that moving around is a true sign of lack of control. I think the player should be capable of both staying in one confined area or if he pleases to move around while shredding, than he/she can do so, as long as they keep control of the bag and their movements. If a player looks a bit out of balance with uncontrolled techniques while moving around, yeah, he/she probably lacks control. As stated above, using the space given in competition routines and such is better than being plain and simple in one space.

When in circles, I think it does look a bit odd if a player ends up across the room, but if that player controls it and could turn around and bring it back to the circle, it's all good. For me it's all about control , whether in one place or moving.

crazydwarf · Post by **crazydwarf** » 31 May 2005 19:44

I move around a bit in circles. I mean like if I'm doing stuff that's hard for me I'll start to move a bit, but it's not too hard for people to see what I'm doing and move if I get to close. I never end up like way far away.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 31 May 2005 20:53

If you're moving around it means that you're not setting the bag straight - or on some moves it can mean that you're not hitting the move as cleanly as possible - ie with osis moves you could be stalling the bag and then dragging it around. Anyway either way - it's definitly best not to move around. Unless you're in a smear race or something like that.

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 31 May 2005 21:15

I agree that a good player should be able to play while moving, or play in place. Sometimes in Tokyo I will start a string by doing a trials move off a bench, then smear and symposium mirage my way back into the circle and continue my run. Or at Japanese Champs 2, I played around a lot with moving during my string, and travelling a full rotation around the outside of the circle, or travelling during my string to get into a different circle.

But yeah, if you can`t play in place when you try, then you should work on that.

professor wrote: In competetion I believe that you actually get judged on how much of your playing area you use. So it's actually beneficial for you to move around.

Not at Worlds last year apparently. There were more than a few people who made it to finals, standing in one place for the full 2 minutes, only stopping to pick up their drops. The judging was seriously messed up.

professor · Post by **professor** » 31 May 2005 21:38

This is from the freestyle rules section of footbag.org.

D. Presentation judges (three to five): The presentation judges evaluate the competitors in five categories:

Music and Movement considers the relationship between the player(s) and the music, including the timing of moves and music, the rhythm of the routine, and the start and finish of the routine.

Floor, Planes & Travel considers the use of the floor area and the use of different kicking planes.

So, although it isn't a huge chunk of the scoring system, judges should take in consideration use of the floor area.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 31 May 2005 21:58

yeah but note that it doesn't say if moveing around lots is a good or bad thing. Also the judging system outlined in those rules is not used at any events any longer as far as I'm aware...

Lise · Post by **Lise** » 01 Jun 2005 09:06

I think moving around looks cool.. -at least within a reasonable extend. I don't think it necessarily equals lack of control. I've seen lots stand on the same spot and play, and still not have good control!
Sometimes when you play and the bag gets set a little off, you bail to recover it with an osis, far legover or whatever to continue playing. Instead of doing this, some people just 'move' over to where the bag is, and continue playing. So yes, they got out of 'their spot' while playing but, regained control and continued....!

(the reason I've used the terms 'people' and 'some people' in this, is because I'm not sure how I do myself!!)

Being able to fully control if you're moving around, and where you're moving, like Ken seems to do, must be hard. THAT takes control..

Seath · Post by **Seath** » 01 Jun 2005 09:14

It's all about style man.