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Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 03 Jun 2005 01:26

Max you should name one of those sets "rambling"!!

Kevin is right - the greek system works. However I really don't see what difference the name of a move makes. I could call my ripwalks "tripstien" as much as I wanted - but I'd still be hitting the same move. Yeah it's convenient if everybody knows what you're talking about but it really doesn't take long at all for any semi experienced footbagger to explain a move anyway.

edit: that said I'm naming all my moves "Oh Wheely" from now on - here's a list (I'm not changing any move names I've already named though

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beta pdx predator - Oh Wheely
beta gamma sailing ss whirl - Oh Wheely mark II
gamma sailing illusion - Oh Wheely mark III
gamma sailing double down - Oh Wheely mark IV
sailing gyro mirage - Oh Wheely mark V
sailing double leg over - Oh Wheely mark VI
delta sailing ss miraging symposium mirage - Oh Wheely Mark VII

qphox · Post by **qphox** » 03 Jun 2005 10:39

That's so cool Max, I hadn't even thoguht of applying dex sets to that maneouvre.

edit:
Also, @ Jeremy: Alpha Beta Gamma Delta. Epsilon is the fifth, not the fourth.

Sporatical_Distractions · Post by **Sporatical_Distractions** » 03 Jun 2005 13:26

that's awesome max, i've also never thought of applying dexes to that, but I know a kid who does ducks out of it. you should try alpine legbeater or something. YEAH!!

james · Post by **james** » 04 Jun 2005 19:52

Fear not alphabetaregamey, greek nomenclature will be smashed to oblivion in short order by yours truly.
I'm not stubborn, I'm right. I will create the topic this week.

I'm really really fatigue with greek nomenclature, it is absolutely ridiculous.

mosher · Post by **mosher** » 04 Jun 2005 20:25

Today Derrick and I hit our first ever cross body pixies, who else does these?

I was SO close to ss pickup and mirage.

We will film them tomorrow and show the world!

Tsiangkun · Post by **Tsiangkun** » 04 Jun 2005 21:00

qphox wrote:There is no need for a symp name for ANY set. Flailing is useless, wonton is useless, pogo is useless, flaring is useless, hyper* is useless, railing* is useless, and yes, even POPPING is useless.
.

Finally, somebody said what has been obvious to so many all along.

ptaku · Post by **ptaku** » 05 Jun 2005 00:36

Qphox is right... Same as there is no need for a ss variant name for any set. And there is no need for a set > pdx comp. variant (like Blurry) for any set. And I think we could find many other thigs about what we don't need and what could simplify things.

And I don see, why you are so anty-greek nomenclature, James. What is wrong with it? I don't see your points... I'm wating for topic...

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 05 Jun 2005 03:05

I think probably what James is going to say is that it's obvious which dex is symposium in all moves if it's frontside or backside. - There are probably no moves where you could say "backside move" and not know which of the downtime dexes is symposium.

Maybe there is a move where the symposium dex is not obvious - somebody point one out...

qphox · Post by **qphox** » 05 Jun 2005 10:41

Backside Frantic Mirage.

Senor Grommet · Post by **Senor Grommet** » 05 Jun 2005 10:46

that would be the 3rd dex symposium kevin.

It could be no other dex because if the 2nd dex (a quantum) was symposium, that dex would be called the 'frontside' dex (because the pixie couldnt be hit symposium in this trick). Essentiall;y inthis 3 dex trick, there are only two dexes that could conceivably be hit with symp dexes: dexes 2 and 3. Thus the dex 2 would receive "frontside" and dex 3 would receive "backside" nomenclature. Furthermore this words because frontside is thought of as a symp. set, whereas backside is thought of a a downtime symp move.

What do you think?

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 05 Jun 2005 10:47

clearly if it's backside that means the downtime dex is symposium - since there is only one downtime dex - I tend to think it's pretty obvious which one that is.

if it were a front side symp frantic mirage the second dex would be symposium. Rooted pixie quantum is not a frantic set - if anything I'd call it a rooted frantic set and I am not aware of anybody hitting a legit. symposium pixie set - ie. set the bag up then plant the setting foot and then jump off the planted foot and dex the bag on the way up! Sounds hard to me!

qphox · Post by **qphox** » 06 Jun 2005 07:36

I don't know if I like the "It probably means this because the alternative is too hard" argument.

But fine. Rooted Frantic is too hard. Lets say Sailing instead then.

Backside Sailing Mirage

Backside Sailing Set? Backside *entire trick*?

Who knows.

The fact is, the Greek System ELIMINATES ALL DISCUSSION. Why wouldn't you want that?

max · Post by **max** » 06 Jun 2005 07:42

The fact is, the Greek System ELIMINATES ALL DISCUSSION. Why wouldn't you want that?

because we like the footbag related flame wars?

Colin · Post by **Colin** » 06 Jun 2005 08:22

Well, front/backside sounds cooler

ptaku · Post by **ptaku** » 06 Jun 2005 08:58

Backside Pixie Miraging Whirl

Anz · Post by **Anz** » 06 Jun 2005 12:15

DID SOMEONE SAY FLAME WAR??

I'M IN!!

Tsiangkun · Post by **Tsiangkun** » 06 Jun 2005 13:15

I think james argument will go like this.

All downtime moves can be used with frontside or backside, and all sets have special names for the uptime symposiums etc.

But I'm still waiting . . .

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 06 Jun 2005 13:55

backside sailing mirage = sailing symposium mirage. Backside and frontside refers to uptime or downtime - so if it's backside there is only one dex that is downtime - the mirage.

backside pixie miraging whirl = pixie miraging symp whirl.

For the mirage to the be symposium move it would mean you hit a downtime symp mirage and then change feet to stall the bag from the whirl - I don't believe this has ever been hit. It may have been hit with the mirage dex uptime - ie frontside frantic whirl but that's obviously a different move.

james · Post by **james** » 06 Jun 2005 16:24

I'm afraid you mistook me for someone who doesn't know what he's talking about, and you're wrong of course. I have an even simpler and more elegant argument, aside from the multi-faceted one I will devise shortly in a new thread, and that is that greek nomenclature has its head cut off by Ockham's razor.
Patience will be rewarded.

enhancement · Post by **enhancement** » 07 Jun 2005 15:14

Splicing Stepping

Sympoisum Reverse Whirling Swirl

Sets, names?