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I noticed that a bunch of people (Tom, Henry, Aaron) starting using Premiere to edit with, so here you can ask questions and post advice and tips and stuff.


TIP: The biggest tip I was ever given (by Sam) was to hold "alt" while scrolling through your timeline to view how your video will look WITH all your editing (ie: it will show your transitions, effects, etc), unfortunately, as far as I know, you cannot preview like this in realtime with the audio.

QUESTION: One thing I've never figured out is how the heck you play a clip in reverse! Can someone tell me how to do this? It seems so simple but I've never figured it out! I think I even looked it up in the Premiere manual, but couldn't find anything.

QUESTION #2: How does 7 compare to 6? I use 6 (or is it 6.5?), and I also have 7, but I could never figure out how to use 7 nearly to the degree I know how to use 6. It's so different. Tips for moving from 6 to 7?
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To play a clip in reverse, give it a negative speed. -100% will play the clip in reverse at the same speed as it occured in real life.
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Erik. Adjust clip speed (as if you're going to slow down, or speed up the footage). When the window pops up, you'll see two tick boxes. One is 'maintain audio pitch' (or something like that), and the other is 'reverse' (or something like that).

To reverse, click that box and maintain clip speed (if you want to).
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I've got a question too. Hope someone can answer it..

I've been told that you can export your uncompressed clips back onto the tape. Then you can re-capture them and compress. This way the quality should turn out better than just compressing straight away.... -or so I've been told!
But I can't seem to get it to work. When I 'export to tape', I can see and hear that the video camera actually starts recording, but there's nothing to see. The screen is black, both while recording and after when I check to see what's on the tape....!?!

I really hope someone has some advice on this, as it's stopping me from finishing a big video project for our web-site, which has been due forever!!!

Thanks.

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Hey Lise.
I've done this successfully. I used to output all of my videos directly back to my camcorder to record on VHS. In my experience the monitor should be black but the video you are exporting to tape should appear on your LCD display of the camera. Play with the settings. You can select a lot of different options, like starting your recording manually (you can set Premiere to play the video and press record on your camcorder when you feel like beginning the recording process. Or what I did was set it to auto-record, with a delay. So I set the video to play 5 seconds delayed and the camcorder to record instantly so that I would get 5 seconds of black recorded to the tape beforehand (I think you can set nothingness for after too, but I may have just added black video to the end of my video for that). Play with the settings, if you still have problems I will try it myself and see what I can do. Which version are you using?

I may have done "print to video"...I'm not sure what the difference is between the two.

OH! Make sure your camera is the same mode you use to record from TV (I think?...). I think, with my camcorder, to do this you put the camera into VCR-mode (as opposed to "recording-mode") and press the "record-pause/line-in" button on your camcorder. It will not work if you don't do this.


HOWEVER, if you're doing all of this (lots of work) simply to export a better quality video in a smaller filesize you may want to look into something like Windows Media Encoder, which is a free program (google it) and allows you to export with almost whatever settings you want. This is also available directly in Premiere 7 (but it's more confusing in Premiere for me). Sam Colclough uses Windows Media Encoder too, so it has to be awesome, right? :D If you want something other than Windows Media (I know lots of people hate Windows Media), try searching www.download.com or google for freeware that does the same thing in other formats.
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Awesome! Thanks so much for that Erik. I'll give it a shot later today..

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Lise, a few things you should check, if you're exporting to tape (camera). First of all, make sure your camera is set to VHS mode (or playback mode). Don't have it set to camera. That might be your issue there.

Otherwise, check the settings in Premier (if that's what you're using). Go through the help section and look up 'Exporting to tape'. You should check through all the settings that you've got set up for Premier, and make sure that your camera is compatible. It should be if you're dumping your footage from the same camera.

As far as the compression thing is concerned... I think I know what you're saying. You edit the clip and then export it to tape. Then dump the exported footage back onto the computer as a seperate segment and compress that.
That will enable you to delete all the extra files that were associated with your project origionally, that you don't need any more, therefore freeing up more space on your HDD and making the compressing stage easier for your PC.

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OH. Is that what you meant, Lise?
What I do when I make a video is I watch all of my tapes straight on my camcorder and mark in a notepad all of the times of a run/outtake/whatever and then I capture to my computer ONLY what I've chosen already (for some reason this usually takes twice as long to watch as it did to film! I usually do all-night marathons for this...). This is so efficient, but even then I find, even with 320gigs to work with that I am constantly running out of room on my harddrives! Maybe you could try this next time, especially if you're short on harddrive space.
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Erik Chan wrote:What I do when I make a video is I watch all of my tapes straight on my camcorder and mark in a notepad all of the times of a run/outtake/whatever and then I capture to my computer ONLY what I've chosen already (for some reason this usually takes twice as long to watch as it did to film! I usually do all-night marathons for this...).
Wow! I can't believe you do that! 8O

I usually do a 'rough cut' when dumping footage in. If I don't know what I'm looking for, then I'll just upload it all. But if I know what happend, and approximately when, then I'll sit through the uploading and cut out all the rubbish, before doing a finer edit on the timeline.
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I used to do it the same way as Erik. All night too... hehe!!

But this time I wanted to do it differently, 'cause I've been advised to do so. I want to capture all my footage in one clip (about 40 mins.!), then put the bits I wanna use into the time-line, and then export it back onto tape. Then capture again, and compress...!

I really appreciate all the advise you've all given. Thanks.

I don't know what's wrong with me, my computer and the camera. I seem to have tried everything. I've been through half the Help-section in the program (which is Premiere Pro, by the way).

I think I'll try it on someone elses computer... -maybe it'll work there.

I'll let you know how it all goes. Thanks again.
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Can you compress using Premiere?

How?
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What do you mean compress?
You can export your project at a compressed file size and type, if that's what you mean, but you probably knew that?
Oh, do you mean initially capturing at a lower quality? In your capture settings you can change this. I THINK this is under project > project settings? I'm not sure, I've never done this before.
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No. actually i dont know how to export a compressed file.


What ive been doing is just exporting it. A 2 minute video is about 500 mb 8O

THen i put that video into WIndows movie maker and compress it there.


How do i compress it IN premiere?
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Oh.
File > Export Timeline > Save for web
And then many options, in version 6. I always used to use "Windows Media for broadband", which is pretty crappy quality. You can download Windows Media Encoder and do basically what you do in Movie Maker, but choose your settings more precisely -- this is what I do now. So export as a full-quality AVI like you would for movie-maker but import to WMENC and choose your own settings :D
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Ok, is there a way to get a whole tape onto premiere without having to wait 60 minutes?!?!?!?!?!!?


Should i just manually capture?
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No, you've gotta capture realtime pally.

Okay, I'm having stupid issues...and somehow I doubt anyone will be able to help me.

When I export as a filmstrip, and then import back in, the clip is slightly displaced and there's a loss of quality despite having exported it uncompressed.

I don't fucking understand it, and if I am to make the video I want to make, I can't have that happening. :?
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WOW...thanks for the "reverse video clip" tip! I would never have figured that out!
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