Calculating Add value.

Chema · Post by **Chema** » 17 Jun 2005 18:25

Ok, so I read this page:
http://www.footbag.org/freestyle/concepts.html

and I understand that each one has an Add value of 1. So wouldn't that mean that a toe> same [dex]> toe be worth 3 Adds? because of the 3 components being worth 1 Add each.

Where have I gone wrong in my logic?

millenniumtree · Post by **millenniumtree** » 17 Jun 2005 19:35

This is because the first toe doesn't count. The toe delay was counted as an add in the previous move.

So if you drop the bag into a toe stall, that's one add.

then you perform toe > same out [dex] > toe, that's two more adds.

zachatree · Post by **zachatree** » 17 Jun 2005 20:49

isnt it if your kicking an you drop it down u dont get the 1 add [del] and u get the what evere add you hit? im really bad at adding the adds too so

millenniumtree · Post by **millenniumtree** » 17 Jun 2005 20:53

Yeah, you probably don't get the add for a stall from a hand-drop, but I was just trying to illustrate that the delay from which the move is set does not count as an add, even though it is in the jobs notation.

CIC flurry · Post by **CIC flurry** » 17 Jun 2005 22:33

Adds count in between contacts, starting when you release the bag, and ending when you stall it.

But make sure you only use adds as a guideline. Don't let them confine your game. It is freestyle. A.K.A. Fuck Adds

Chema · Post by **Chema** » 18 Jun 2005 07:44

I'm with CIC flurry "f_ck adds," although they can be useful for bragging.
I think your right about the inbetweens counting but not the first and last.

millenniumtree · Post by **millenniumtree** » 18 Jun 2005 07:46

Yeah, adds just count for competition. Do what looks and feels good.

crazydwarf · Post by **crazydwarf** » 18 Jun 2005 10:07

I think your right about the inbetweens counting but not the first and last.

Well, you do have to count the last, like in clipper from toe it's
toe > same clipper [xbd] [del]
You don't count the toe stall in your add count, but you do count the cross body and the delay so it's 2 adds.

Chema · Post by **Chema** » 18 Jun 2005 17:04

Well, you do have to count the last, like in clipper from toe it's
toe > same clipper [xbd] [del]
You don't count the toe stall in your add count, but you do count the cross body and the delay so it's 2 adds.

so a clipper by itself (ie no toe stall) would be two adds?

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 18 Jun 2005 17:19

yes!

Basically if you counted the stall at the start and finish of a move then you'd be counting the same adds twice when you're linking moves. ie if you atw>clipper>mirage: del, dex del>del,xbd, del>del, dex, del then you're counting all the delays twice. This would be silly. The hardest part of lots of moves is delaying the bag at the end - if you don't do this the move doesn't count. So the delay only counts at the end. It doesn't take any skill to set a bag off a delay - so no adds for this.

Chema · Post by **Chema** » 18 Jun 2005 18:40

Oh, no! then I suck.

zachatree · Post by **zachatree** » 18 Jun 2005 21:47

is there a rule book? like that gets as to in detail as much down to this type of stuff. becouse really. this sport gets so in depth to the point that no one could even imagen thats used to just good old hacky sack. where the only rule is no self serve. lol. its things like this that make me love footbag even more. what a awsome sport/activity.