HI there ! i was playing for like 3 months and i can kick with 32 panel and 4 panel over 150 times and i can do clipper leg over around ther world ............ with my 4 panel and 32 panel i only can do toe stall and barely around the world. anyway i have read many posts about MRs Sandbag and i have no idea whats that is that a 4 panel footbag? or a better pros footbag?
http://www.footbagcanada.com/images/kan ... _small.jpg << 32 i use
4 panel i m using
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Is Mr. Sandbag better or my footbag betteR?
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ThisIsFate
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Mr. Sandbag made by Daryl Genz are the best 4 panel footbag you can get. It's all about personal preference, but if you want to freestyle, freedoms are the way to go.
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Yours is a machine (or slave) made 32..
You would be much happier with a handmade bag by a stitcher from the Stitcher Contact Info thread in Bags & Equipment.
They take a little while to break in to the point that they are very stally.. but they get soooo sweet!
They will break in further than the bag you have, but generally be much smaller. (I would assume) Most handmade bags are in the range of golfball size, of course there are smaller and bigger ones.
You would be much happier with a handmade bag by a stitcher from the Stitcher Contact Info thread in Bags & Equipment.
They take a little while to break in to the point that they are very stally.. but they get soooo sweet!
They will break in further than the bag you have, but generally be much smaller. (I would assume) Most handmade bags are in the range of golfball size, of course there are smaller and bigger ones.
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The 4 panel bag you were using is an excellent beginner bag. I learned a lot of tricks with mine, and it stalls beautifully. It obviously doesn't set as well as a 32 panel, but it's usually lighter, stays in the air longer, and is great for LEARNING new moves. The other problem with it, is if you use it daily, it has a relatively low shelf life. Maybe a month or two tops. The sand will come out of that thing fairly quickly. This is where Mr. Sandbag has a big advantage. They seem to last quite a bit longer.
The great thing is, they're both pretty inexpensive bags, so you may want to have one of each around. I really recommend against getting a 32 panel from a stitcher at this stage, only because they're expensive, hard to break in, and you won't be able to realize the full value until you are of higher skill level. I see a lot of amazing footbaggers still using Mr. Sandbag once in a while, so you don't have to worry about it. You'll know when the time is right to get a 32 panel. Until then, keep up the good work!
The great thing is, they're both pretty inexpensive bags, so you may want to have one of each around. I really recommend against getting a 32 panel from a stitcher at this stage, only because they're expensive, hard to break in, and you won't be able to realize the full value until you are of higher skill level. I see a lot of amazing footbaggers still using Mr. Sandbag once in a while, so you don't have to worry about it. You'll know when the time is right to get a 32 panel. Until then, keep up the good work!
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Yeah, I was referring to the 4 panel on efootbag.com, but dirtbags do swell up pretty big. When I first started learning stalls, this kid from New Orleans had a dirtbag and it was so broken in that it like draped over your foot. I know that sounds bad, but at the time it was perfect for learning toe stalls, legovers, and clippers.
I'm just going to give a more organized review of the 3 bags I recommend for starting out:
Mr. Sandbag $6(worldfootbag.com)- This bag is an EXCELLENT beginner bag. It is soft, and toe stalls are a breeze. The only problem with this bag is that the velvety material that it's made of tends to roll off of your foot ESPECIALLY when learning clippers. Once you have solid foundation mechanics, this won't be a problem; but in my opinion success is the best way to learn footbag, and successfully getting the bag to stall on your foot is the most important thing when first starting out. Fixing the roll: Apply fabric glue in dots, patterns, however you like to give the bag more grip.
4 Panel Sandbag $5.75(efootbag.com)- Another great beginner bag, this thing is small, and stays small and stalls perfectly right out of the box. It's synthetic suede material make it great for learning the foundation stall moves, especially clipper. It's downfall is that it doesn't last nearly as long as Mr. Sandbag, only about a month or two compared to say 3-6 months with a Mr. Sandbag. What happens is that sand will come out of the bag over the course of a month or two, leaving it pretty flat. Around the same time the material will get a little stiff, but I believe washing it regularly helps decrease this.
8 Panel Dirtbag $6(flyingclipper.com)- Another good beginner bag, similar properties to the 4 Panel Sandbag, and after a break in period of roughly a week or two, stalls very well. The 'problem' is that it also becomes pretty big. Where as a lot of people think this is a bad thing, I feel it's fine for learning toe, inside, and clipper stalls. Doing a wrap with this bag is as easy as pie. The only real problem with this bag, is that it's size will prohibit you from setting the bag properly for more complex moves as your skills improve later on. It takes most people a decent amount of time to nail the basics, and the easier it is to stall your footbag, the better you will become at learning those basic stalls.
In conclusion, all of these bags have good qualities and bad ones. Mr. Sandbag is definitely by far the best beginner bag of the 3 mentioned. The advantage that a Dirtbag or a 4 Panel has is the forgiveness when doing stalls. That synthetic suede will grip a lot better than the velvety material on Mr. Sandbag. The easy solution is just to apply fabric glue to Mr. Sandbag, maybe just 10-15 dabs around the bag to give it more grip, and keep it from rolling off of your foot.
I never did this however to my Mr. Sandbag. What I did was just use the 4 Panel/Dirtbag to LEARN tricks and stalls. Once I had the trick nailed, I could more effectively execute it with Mr. Sandbag. Now that I was comfortable doing clipper with the 4 Panel/Dirtbag, I could work on my form with Mr. Sandbag, trying to nail that clipper without letting the bag roll.
There's nothing wrong with having a couple of different types of footbags, and seeing what works best for you since they're all pretty inexpensive; only about 6 bucks each. Good Luck!
I'm just going to give a more organized review of the 3 bags I recommend for starting out:
Mr. Sandbag $6(worldfootbag.com)- This bag is an EXCELLENT beginner bag. It is soft, and toe stalls are a breeze. The only problem with this bag is that the velvety material that it's made of tends to roll off of your foot ESPECIALLY when learning clippers. Once you have solid foundation mechanics, this won't be a problem; but in my opinion success is the best way to learn footbag, and successfully getting the bag to stall on your foot is the most important thing when first starting out. Fixing the roll: Apply fabric glue in dots, patterns, however you like to give the bag more grip.
4 Panel Sandbag $5.75(efootbag.com)- Another great beginner bag, this thing is small, and stays small and stalls perfectly right out of the box. It's synthetic suede material make it great for learning the foundation stall moves, especially clipper. It's downfall is that it doesn't last nearly as long as Mr. Sandbag, only about a month or two compared to say 3-6 months with a Mr. Sandbag. What happens is that sand will come out of the bag over the course of a month or two, leaving it pretty flat. Around the same time the material will get a little stiff, but I believe washing it regularly helps decrease this.
8 Panel Dirtbag $6(flyingclipper.com)- Another good beginner bag, similar properties to the 4 Panel Sandbag, and after a break in period of roughly a week or two, stalls very well. The 'problem' is that it also becomes pretty big. Where as a lot of people think this is a bad thing, I feel it's fine for learning toe, inside, and clipper stalls. Doing a wrap with this bag is as easy as pie. The only real problem with this bag, is that it's size will prohibit you from setting the bag properly for more complex moves as your skills improve later on. It takes most people a decent amount of time to nail the basics, and the easier it is to stall your footbag, the better you will become at learning those basic stalls.
In conclusion, all of these bags have good qualities and bad ones. Mr. Sandbag is definitely by far the best beginner bag of the 3 mentioned. The advantage that a Dirtbag or a 4 Panel has is the forgiveness when doing stalls. That synthetic suede will grip a lot better than the velvety material on Mr. Sandbag. The easy solution is just to apply fabric glue to Mr. Sandbag, maybe just 10-15 dabs around the bag to give it more grip, and keep it from rolling off of your foot.
I never did this however to my Mr. Sandbag. What I did was just use the 4 Panel/Dirtbag to LEARN tricks and stalls. Once I had the trick nailed, I could more effectively execute it with Mr. Sandbag. Now that I was comfortable doing clipper with the 4 Panel/Dirtbag, I could work on my form with Mr. Sandbag, trying to nail that clipper without letting the bag roll.
There's nothing wrong with having a couple of different types of footbags, and seeing what works best for you since they're all pretty inexpensive; only about 6 bucks each. Good Luck!
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