What would this be called?

Switch Kicker · Post by **Switch Kicker** » 21 Sep 2005 19:22

Ok, I probably will explain this badly, but I'll try my best.

Set foot is the right foot. In to out dex with left foot, in to out with right foot, rake with left foot. Kinda like a egg beater, only out to in instead of in to out... My friend thinks it's a Double Illusion, I think it has something to do with either fairy set, or a different form of the Egg Beater. Anyone know what it's called, thanks.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 21 Sep 2005 19:42

sounds like a toe blur rake maybe? Or maybe just a normal toe blur. A video would really really help... (or you learning job' notation). From your description, it's definitely not a double illusion or a fairy set.

Switch Kicker · Post by **Switch Kicker** » 22 Sep 2005 18:24

Actually, it's basically an Atomic set, (Set on the right foot.), and then going to an out-to-in dex with the set foot, and then raking it up on the left foot... I mean, there's no other way to explain it better...

SandWraith · Post by **SandWraith** » 22 Sep 2005 18:43

Switch Kicker wrote:Ok, I probably will explain this badly, but I'll try my best.

Set foot is the right foot. In to out dex with left foot, in to out with right foot, rake with left foot. Kinda like a egg beater, only out to in instead of in to out... My friend thinks it's a Double Illusion, I think it has something to do with either fairy set, or a different form of the Egg Beater. Anyone know what it's called, thanks.

Switch Kicker wrote:Actually, it's basically an Atomic set, (Set on the right foot.), and then going to an out-to-in dex with the set foot, and then raking it up on the left foot... I mean, there's no other way to explain it better...

????

(NOTE:Atomic = opposite foot does an out-to-in dex)

Chim-Chim · Post by **Chim-Chim** » 22 Sep 2005 20:58

toe blur rake? maybe it's a toblerone.........

james_dean · Post by **james_dean** » 22 Sep 2005 21:20

Switch Kicker wrote:Set foot is the right foot. In to out dex with left foot, in to out with right foot, rake with left foot.

That sounds like a Toe Blur Rake.

Switch Kicker wrote:Actually, it's basically an Atomic set, (Set on the right foot.), and then going to an out-to-in dex with the set foot, and then raking it up on the left foot... I mean, there's no other way to explain it better...

That sounds like Atomic Illusion Rake (Omelette Rake?)

You do realise that your first and second descriptions... are completely opposite to each other? Which is it, in-out dex's or out-in dex's?

Switch Kicker wrote:Kinda like a egg beater, only out to in instead of in to out...

This sentence just makes no sense... do you understand out-in and in-out? Eggbeater IS out to in...

p.s. is toblerone an actual trick name? I get it, I like it,

lol

Switch Kicker · Post by **Switch Kicker** » 23 Sep 2005 05:53

I'm pretty sure I edited my first post to be correct with the Eggbeater. Bah, whatever, it's out to in. Yes, I do know the difference. Out to in is counterclockwise with your right foot, and clock wise with your left. in to out is clock wise with your right foot, and counter with your left. Sorry, the eggbeater gets me mixed up sometimes.

here's teh trick in my explanation. This is putting my foot down. Atomic set Illusion. That's what it looks to be.

This is what my friend says the notation is. I only know a little of Jobs.
toe>op out>op out>op toe

Anz · Post by **Anz** » 23 Sep 2005 06:56

Omelette.
And when you say that it looks like an Eggeater it's Leggy Omelette. (Leggy means that the dex is with your leg, not thigh like atomic sets usually are)
There is no Rake, it's Toe Stall

*Jethro* · Post by ***Jethro*** » 24 Sep 2005 00:42

Sounds like a Janiwalker...

WiGeek · Post by **WiGeek** » 24 Sep 2005 06:27

Whats a rake!?

Tsiangkun · Post by **Tsiangkun** » 24 Sep 2005 07:45

Switch Kicker wrote:Ok, I probably will explain this badly, but I'll try

Set foot is the right foot. In to out dex with left foot, in to out with right foot, rake with left foot.

Kinda like a egg beater, only out to in instead of in to out...

I only know a little of Jobs. toe>op out>op out>op toe

I think it has something to do with either fairy set,

it's basically an Atomic set, (Set on the right foot.), and then going to an out-to-in dex with the set foot, and then raking it up

This is putting my foot down. Atomic set Illusion. That's what it looks to be.

Anyone know what it's called, thanks.

It's called YOU demonstrating you are completely unqualified to be talking shit on Richard Abshire in that other thread you started. Go work on your skills before talking shit on people with 20 years experience.

Anz · Post by **Anz** » 24 Sep 2005 09:48

Slowsis · Post by **Slowsis** » 24 Sep 2005 10:05

Owned Indeed!

(BTW because of the rake mention, i think it was a the'd Omelette)

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 24 Sep 2005 18:25

oh yeah - great call Adam. I'm going with that as well - atomic butterfly rake? or something similar.

Switch Kicker · Post by **Switch Kicker** » 03 Nov 2005 10:18

Tsiangkun wrote:
Switch Kicker wrote:Ok, I probably will explain this badly, but I'll try

Set foot is the right foot. In to out dex with left foot, in to out with right foot, rake with left foot.

Kinda like a egg beater, only out to in instead of in to out...

I only know a little of Jobs. toe>op out>op out>op toe

I think it has something to do with either fairy set,

it's basically an Atomic set, (Set on the right foot.), and then going to an out-to-in dex with the set foot, and then raking it up

This is putting my foot down. Atomic set Illusion. That's what it looks to be.

Anyone know what it's called, thanks.
It's called YOU demonstrating you are completely unqualified to be talking shit on Richard Abshire in that other thread you started. Go work on your skills before talking shit on people with 20 years experience.

(Mod Edit)I can shred just fine for my ammount of experiance. I'm sorry I don't sit at my computer for hours learning a pointless system called Job's Notation so I can explain fucking tricks to your dumbass becuase you jsut can't understand plain english, you need it spoken to you in a computer-like format. Stfu (Mod Edit), and get a life.

And the Richie Abshire bags fucking suck, (Mod Edit). Mr. SandBag is the only way to go. We all have our own prefrences, get over it.

Use appropriate language. -Moxie

Tsiangkun · Post by **Tsiangkun** » 03 Nov 2005 10:33

It took you a month to come back to this thread

, and you still can't describe the trick.

You can talk shit about plain English descriptions, but my last post was very plain and blunt English. I know there was no misunderstanding in the message I sent you, unlike those incomplete contradictory descriptions of that trick you posted.

I stand by my statement.

You sir, do not have the skills or experience to be running of at the mouth about products that greatly exceed your skill level.

The Mr is the right bag for you, it's perfect for beginner players.

FlexThis · Post by **FlexThis** » 03 Nov 2005 10:37

I'll try to explain:

Toe set > op Out > op Out > Op rake
= Legbeater rake
or FRONT END LOADER (This is my invention, so I understand the concept completely)

You can't rake an eggbeater

Let me clarify,

You CAN rake an eggbeater but that kinda rake isn't really anything other than a glorified toe stall.

However, if the ending dex is a butterflying dex and the rake pulls it back from the Cross Body position, then you have done a legbeater rake or Front End Loader.

Is your rake done in front of you after the second dex?

Or, is your rake done to the side and behind the second dex??

This will make the distinction.

BTW - Jobs is important for communication between us Shredders online to get a feel for what you are attempting so we can give you feed back on that move. While I understand that you are more intereted in kicking than learning computer jargon, the jargon is important to us in order to help you out.

Cameron was just venting on you for bashing a WELL KNOWN PROFESSIONAL STITCHER that currently makes and sells the most hand-stitched bags on the market today. Richard Abshire is a friend of his personally, as he is also a friend of mine personally. He lives about 30 minutes from my house. He is a professional stitcher LITERALLY. He has no other income to fall back on should your rant in another thread affect his business.

Personal suggestion:
Notify the stitcher in a PM (personal message) or by email before opening up a can of worms publically on a forum. You will make a lot more friends that can potentially help your game if you can keep personal matters personal.

~peace
Damon

Switch Kicker · Post by **Switch Kicker** » 03 Nov 2005 10:54

^^^ 3 Cheers for that dude.

As for making Richie Abshire look bad, that wasn't the intention. It only began to look that way when dumbass two posts above me started putting words in my mouth. The only reason I came back a month later is because I had gotten my answer to my question, didn't even both to read your post, and noticed that it was somehow, still in the top 20 freaking threads, a month later. I stopped in to see what the deal was, why this thread wasn't dead, and oh, it's becuase you're still here trying to tell me that i have no skill what so ever and that I should respect the crap out of someone because they spent the last 20 years of their life doing nothing but footbag related stuff. Richie, yea, i give him respect, it's gotta be hard, hand stitching thousands of bags and such, but the fact still remains, he gave me a defective bag with bad stitching, and it had a hole in it when I first got it. Mistakes freakin' happen, ok, DEAL WITH IT. Just accept that Richie Abshire, your dear friend, made ONE, ONE bad bag, and I was simply wondering what the deal was, that's what my entire thread was about, just wondering why my abshire sucked. Turns out I bought another and it works great, exact same color and everything, but it was stitched properly and didn't have a hole in it right from the get go. It took 2 weeks to break in and I've had some good times with it, pulled my first triple dex with it 2 weeks ago, and i"m proud of the thing. But the Mr. SandBag is better for my uses, and it always will be. It' snot because of a lack of skill, it's a prefrence. I don't like how heavy abshires are, so I use a Mr.

Ok, so stfu now mr dude with a problem with me.

FlexThis · Post by **FlexThis** » 03 Nov 2005 10:58

SandWraith · Post by **SandWraith** » 03 Nov 2005 11:42

Props to Damon for calmly dealing with the issue.

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