Ok, I've been having some bad back pain for about a week now. I havn't been playing that much anymore. It seems the back back just crept up on me, I don't remember getting it suddenly. Basically its my lower right back and I can feel the specific spot where it hurts. The area is a lil more than an inch long and simple movements such as putting on pants and socks hurt.
I've been talking to some people and I hear that landing on you heels can be really bad for you back, which I may be doing. I also read in the injured players roster that if one leg is longer than the other that this can also cause back pain? For a long time now I've always felt that my leg alignment was off. My lower legs are slightly more bent inward than normal and I do have flat feet, if this means anything.
All I'm doing right now is trying to take things easy and play old school hacky sack, which dosn't hurt. Anyone else have experience or advice? Thanks.
Back pain
Is it right above your hip/waist bone?
Ben Skaggs
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Amateurs practice until they can get it right.
Professionals practice until they can't get it wrong.
No, I don't play soccer. Yes, there are competitions. 4 years. Lots of practice.
Stretching your back will help, so would supportive shoes or orthodics. Landing on your heels is definitely bad for your back.. you don't have any way of cushioning the impact except with your back and knees.
This exercise helps my back loosen up when it's getting sore - put both your arms straight out to your side, shoulder height, turn back and forth with your feet firmly planted, shoulder width apart. Make sure you take it somewhat slow, revolve a little further every time until you can look way behind you without putting any stress on your back or neck. Make sure your arms don't change position.
When you're done with that, let your back go limp and touch the floor between your feet. When your back is loosened up, push your hands through your legs and pull yourself on the ground behind/between your legs.. you'll feel a stretch on your back and your hamstrings. after about 10 seconds of that, bring both hands to your left foot, hold it for 10 seconds, now turn and bring both hands to your right foot, hold it for 10 seconds. You'll feel a stretch in your lower back and hamstrings, your calf and behind your knee. Repeat 3 or 4 times.
With your feet still spread shoulder width, put your right hand on your hip, your left arm up in the air, and lean to your right, stretch as far as you can, once you've reached your limit, do the other side. Make sure the hand on your hip takes most of the weight off your lower back. Repeat 3 or 4 times.
All in all, it should only take a few minutes out of your day and make your back feel much better.
Stretching your glutes/buttocks out would help too, but too much to explain for now.
This exercise helps my back loosen up when it's getting sore - put both your arms straight out to your side, shoulder height, turn back and forth with your feet firmly planted, shoulder width apart. Make sure you take it somewhat slow, revolve a little further every time until you can look way behind you without putting any stress on your back or neck. Make sure your arms don't change position.
When you're done with that, let your back go limp and touch the floor between your feet. When your back is loosened up, push your hands through your legs and pull yourself on the ground behind/between your legs.. you'll feel a stretch on your back and your hamstrings. after about 10 seconds of that, bring both hands to your left foot, hold it for 10 seconds, now turn and bring both hands to your right foot, hold it for 10 seconds. You'll feel a stretch in your lower back and hamstrings, your calf and behind your knee. Repeat 3 or 4 times.
With your feet still spread shoulder width, put your right hand on your hip, your left arm up in the air, and lean to your right, stretch as far as you can, once you've reached your limit, do the other side. Make sure the hand on your hip takes most of the weight off your lower back. Repeat 3 or 4 times.
All in all, it should only take a few minutes out of your day and make your back feel much better.
Stretching your glutes/buttocks out would help too, but too much to explain for now.
Are you a bothsided player? Footbag makes good use of the trunk muscles, including the lower back. If one side gets significantly stronger than the other, it's asking for trouble.
A while ago I aggravated some existing back problems by doing lots of pixies with one side, and very very few with the other.
A while ago I aggravated some existing back problems by doing lots of pixies with one side, and very very few with the other.
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Back pain can come from lots of different things, it may not have originated from footbag, but there is a good chance it did if proper form isn't used. A lot of times when players are a bit new to the sport and still developing style and technique, they will lean over the bag a bit to much. Any time you lean over, that puts a lot more stress through the back, you wouldn't think that just leaning over does that much, but improper lifting techniques because people lean over is what causes a majority of back pain and such, that and bad over all posture and day to day mechanics. So if you play and you find yourself kinda looking over the bag with your back curved, try to straighten it out and keep good lower back posture.
That could be one thing, also to help your back out, do some core exercises or stretches. Basically anything for your trunk muscles, cause they are used during any activities, you just don't notice it very much. Something easy exercises to do for lower back is laying on your stomach with your arms infront of you. Lift up your left leg as you lift up your right arm at the same time (alternating upper extremity/lower extremity). You don't need to lift it very high, because in that position, your body won't allow it unless you compensate by moving your body around. You should be able to do around 15-20 on both sides alternating back and forth, if it bothers you, take a rest in between.
Like others said, it could be from improper jump and landing, try to land as soft as possible and make use of the balls of your feet so the shock is absorbed and distributed more evenly. If you land somewhat on your heals, a lot of it goes into your back, ouch. Also, if you stand straight up and you can't bend over and reach anywhere near your toes, being overly tight throughout the hamstrings might play a roll into back pain and tightness into the back. Soooo...my morning rant is over with, take it from there, any questions, shoot.
That could be one thing, also to help your back out, do some core exercises or stretches. Basically anything for your trunk muscles, cause they are used during any activities, you just don't notice it very much. Something easy exercises to do for lower back is laying on your stomach with your arms infront of you. Lift up your left leg as you lift up your right arm at the same time (alternating upper extremity/lower extremity). You don't need to lift it very high, because in that position, your body won't allow it unless you compensate by moving your body around. You should be able to do around 15-20 on both sides alternating back and forth, if it bothers you, take a rest in between.
Like others said, it could be from improper jump and landing, try to land as soft as possible and make use of the balls of your feet so the shock is absorbed and distributed more evenly. If you land somewhat on your heals, a lot of it goes into your back, ouch. Also, if you stand straight up and you can't bend over and reach anywhere near your toes, being overly tight throughout the hamstrings might play a roll into back pain and tightness into the back. Soooo...my morning rant is over with, take it from there, any questions, shoot.
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I've had back pain too since last weekend and I can tell you it isn't really fun. I guess my pains aren't that bad as yours, Ben, because by me it isn't constant pain, just when I shred.
I think some reasons for the pain were not enough rest between playing days and too much skooling on Torques. The pain is worst when doing Torques and Whirls, so I think that landing on your heels isn't a good thing.
I've been stretching like this:
...and I think it has helped a lot. I'm actually planning on going to shred today, easy though (yesterday I thought that my back'd be okay --> after first Torque: NOT).
Hey John, please make the Hood's House link work again...
I think some reasons for the pain were not enough rest between playing days and too much skooling on Torques. The pain is worst when doing Torques and Whirls, so I think that landing on your heels isn't a good thing.
I've been stretching like this:
...and I think it has helped a lot. I'm actually planning on going to shred today, easy though (yesterday I thought that my back'd be okay --> after first Torque: NOT).
Hey John, please make the Hood's House link work again...
Lauri Jaakkola
I get a back pain every once and a while that hurts directly above my hip bone in one particular spot and if I do certain movements (i.e. bending over) it gives me a sharp pain. This sounds like what you have, except I get it suddenly because of a movement and not over time.Bander87 wrote:Yepprofessor wrote:Is it right above your hip/waist bone?
I've tried many stretches and none of them really stretch where I hurt. What I do is rest it, meaning no footbag, and put ice on it. It usually goes away after a few days or so, depending on how bad it is. I would suggest resting your back for one week, doing as little twisting and bending motions as possible. Then if it is not gone, or at least significantly better, I would see a doctor about it.
Ben Skaggs
Amateurs practice until they can get it right.
Professionals practice until they can't get it wrong.
No, I don't play soccer. Yes, there are competitions. 4 years. Lots of practice.
Amateurs practice until they can get it right.
Professionals practice until they can't get it wrong.
No, I don't play soccer. Yes, there are competitions. 4 years. Lots of practice.
Bandwidth should be reset tomorrow, so the site should be up tomorrow. Also, what professor said is right too, it just depends on what type of pains you're getting and why you get them. If it's general pain around the low back, it shouldn't be anything severe, but if it's a sharper pain like professor's, it might not be something that will ease up with the things I've said. That would be the odder case, but why don't ya tell us some more about how long you've had it, what type of pain it is, when it's the worst, etc.sniikeri wrote:Hey John, please make the Hood's House link work again...
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Much back pain is due to week abdominal muscles, I suggest first seeing a docter and taking care of the pain you have. When that is done, I suggest a regular core routine(not just a few situps) which will help in avoiding future problems.
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just because you can see abs doesn't mean there that strong. Tons of fat people with out six packs have really strong abdominals, where people with very visual abdominals have very week ones.
"...You have to get, really, practice, like eight hours every day. Then you get good level and then you can compete....There is no money, so players are like big family and that is what I -like" -Vasek-
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Yes I know, I was just kidding (probably should stick with doing it only in Finnish... 
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I'm quite certain what it is; I think my back muscles are so jammed that they push some nerve that goes there in my back...or what do I know, I'm not a doctor. Anyways, tomorrow I'll go to see the "school nurse-don't-really-know-what-it-is-in-English" and ask what I should do. Hopefully it's just muscles and nothing worse...
This really is hard to try to explain everything in English, especially when the dictionary is 30+ years old.
).I'm quite certain what it is; I think my back muscles are so jammed that they push some nerve that goes there in my back...or what do I know, I'm not a doctor. Anyways, tomorrow I'll go to see the "school nurse-don't-really-know-what-it-is-in-English" and ask what I should do. Hopefully it's just muscles and nothing worse...
This really is hard to try to explain everything in English, especially when the dictionary is 30+ years old.
Lauri Jaakkola
Is your other shoulder noticeably higher than the other one? Maybe your legs are different length. Or then you might just have two injuries that are both just caused by footbag. I.e. back pain could be caused by body-twisting moves like torque and knees by whirls etc.
Anyways, if you feel there's something wrong, I'd recommend you to go to see a doctor.
Anyways, if you feel there's something wrong, I'd recommend you to go to see a doctor.
Lauri Jaakkola
whirl more with your left leg, that way you can even out the pain and you won't notice it so much in either leg
When you're done playing and stretching maybe lie down on your back on a hard flat surface ie. your floor. Just let all your muscles and your mind relax, it might help the pain and help you pinpoint exactly what is causing your back problem; whether it's muscular or a spinal problem.
When you're done playing and stretching maybe lie down on your back on a hard flat surface ie. your floor. Just let all your muscles and your mind relax, it might help the pain and help you pinpoint exactly what is causing your back problem; whether it's muscular or a spinal problem.
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sounds like you have exactly what I have. Now I wan't you to try to recall any time that you may have thrown your back out, ie. had trouble bending over and standing straight. What happens here is that you slip a disc. Now we all have slipped discs, probably more of us in the footbag community too, but many times the back functions fine with these discs out of place. Other times, some of us arent as lucky. That disc is going to come out and pinch that nerve. Now this is in your spine, which is probably where most of your pain is actually coming from. because that nerve controls those muscles in that lower back area, it controls those muscles all the way down to your ankle, AND SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE KNEE!!! Now when I pinched my nerve all I felt was a flutter through my muscles and then they didn't exist anymore because there was no connection between them and my spine.
I highly highly HIGHLY suggest you go to a doctor and get an MRI. I had 3 slipped discs when I went in to get checked and 1 was very very severe. The other two are fine and still to this day out of place but that 1 had to be surgically taken care of.
A secondary effect of footbag which is my case is that footbag puts wear and tear on your knees. Now its not footbag that hurts my back, granted I could stand straiter on my spins but my postures pretty good. What hurts my back is all the improper standing up, crouching and lifting because of my knees. Even when I stock at work I go through the proper lifting drill every time but when your knees arent going to be there to pick you up, guess what compensates, the back. Which then biggity bam drops you like skywalker drops the death star..
On a side note I found out today that I am offically "permanently disabled," its the condition they gave me when they closed my case. Which only means that they are going to cut me some phat checks. Crazy huh.
But don't let "permanently disabled" happen to you. Consult your doctor, and get an MRI.
jusit'n
sounds like you have exactly what I have. Now I wan't you to try to recall any time that you may have thrown your back out, ie. had trouble bending over and standing straight. What happens here is that you slip a disc. Now we all have slipped discs, probably more of us in the footbag community too, but many times the back functions fine with these discs out of place. Other times, some of us arent as lucky. That disc is going to come out and pinch that nerve. Now this is in your spine, which is probably where most of your pain is actually coming from. because that nerve controls those muscles in that lower back area, it controls those muscles all the way down to your ankle, AND SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE KNEE!!! Now when I pinched my nerve all I felt was a flutter through my muscles and then they didn't exist anymore because there was no connection between them and my spine.
I highly highly HIGHLY suggest you go to a doctor and get an MRI. I had 3 slipped discs when I went in to get checked and 1 was very very severe. The other two are fine and still to this day out of place but that 1 had to be surgically taken care of.
A secondary effect of footbag which is my case is that footbag puts wear and tear on your knees. Now its not footbag that hurts my back, granted I could stand straiter on my spins but my postures pretty good. What hurts my back is all the improper standing up, crouching and lifting because of my knees. Even when I stock at work I go through the proper lifting drill every time but when your knees arent going to be there to pick you up, guess what compensates, the back. Which then biggity bam drops you like skywalker drops the death star..
On a side note I found out today that I am offically "permanently disabled," its the condition they gave me when they closed my case. Which only means that they are going to cut me some phat checks. Crazy huh.
But don't let "permanently disabled" happen to you. Consult your doctor, and get an MRI.
jusit'n
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Oh dang, thanks so much for the information, and from everyone else too. At the current moment I don't have any insurance but I'll see a docter asap once I do. Is there anything you sugest I do in the meantime? By back has been cracking a lot. Can disk gt out of place by hunching over too much when you play?
Thanks so much.
Thanks so much.