No Drug Topics allowed?

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » 02 Dec 2005 14:20

Was there some sort of determination, I wasn't aware of, because I feel my assumed free speech is being squished upon.

wolfpac444 · Post by **wolfpac444** » 02 Dec 2005 14:30

Why do you feel that way?

I don't feel like my "assumed free speech is being squished" upon because NBC doesn't give me national airtime to express my views.

mc · Post by mc » 02 Dec 2005 15:10

I'm with mike on this one, it is really a bad idea to have threads where people are saying, "try this drug, it's cool, try that drug, who has a steady hookup for this drug? what happens when you take this drug?"

I've provided links to better places to discuss and research this kind of thing, and stated why in the past. Mike has also just posted those same links in your other thread, LSD.

Please don't do a disservice to our forum and community by posting about sketchy shit like that in a public forum where it can be read by parents of players or by players at school. .

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » 02 Dec 2005 15:10

you are correct in that assumption

wolfpac444 · Post by **wolfpac444** » 02 Dec 2005 15:44

Go to a drug forum to discuss drugs. Don't do it here. Ultimately this decision will wind up in the hands of the admins, but I wanted to throw in my 2 cents. This is only hurting our image, giving further reason to prolong the terrible drug/slacker/hippie connotations that we have tried so hard to purge from our sport. Think about our image, think about the age of many of our members, think about their parents who are surely looking over their shoulders. We are not all adults here (in fact, based on the level of most discussions, I would imagine that adults are in the minority .. with mature adults being few and far between). All topics like this do is scare the right people off, attract the wrong people, destroy our image, and make the sport less accessible to minors.

Guest_2 · Post by **Guest_2** » 02 Dec 2005 16:27

While I agree the other guys on most things, especially on how it affects our image, I still feel this is a free speech non-footbag section.

On the other hand, the LSD thread's were imho uncalled for. And probably better off in the kicking circle or on another forum altogether-there are enough of them.

Oh, and-LSD=Bad

BainbridgeShred · Post by **BainbridgeShred** » 02 Dec 2005 16:44

Oh, and-LSD=Bad

Lol, wanna back that up buddy? And how about with something other than what you read in the Sunday paper?

BainbridgeShred · Post by **BainbridgeShred** » 02 Dec 2005 16:50

I don't feel like my "assumed free speech is being squished" upon because NBC doesn't give me national airtime to express my views.

Poor analogy. NBC is a company owned mainly by a select minority of stockholders, whose chief aim is to make money. Modified is a public forum whose chief aim is to strike up discussion on said issues. The only response the mod's should do with the original "LSD" topic is to move it into "The Kicking Circle" forum. The topic really has nothing to do with discussion, and thus I would advise putting it in it's proper sub-forum.

Blackend · Post by **Blackend** » 02 Dec 2005 17:00

Maybe for the "drug threads," instead of doing something insipid like talking about hookups for said substance, why not just talk about experiences, reactions, and advice instead of what's going on and letting Dan hop from thread to thread flaming?

No offense, Dan, it's just getting old reading the same story in a different context from you. The thread feuds between you and Jeremy or you and the mods is getting boring.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 02 Dec 2005 18:12

I think we decided a while ago - and most people seemed to be happy with this decision - that topics discussing the nature of drugs and the laws surrounding them etc. are ok but topics giving specific drug advice or more openly promoting drug use are banned.

A question like "where can I get acid" is pretty innapropriate and not an image I want to see promoted with anything I'm involved with. This has nothing to do with my personal stance on drugs - which are very liberal - but about what I'm comfortable in being connected with on a public non-anonymous forum.

Obviously most of the people on this forum are in an age group that is the highest drug taking age group of all ages and taking drugs at our age is something that is fairly common in and out of the footbag community and many people on this forum will have tried some kinds of drugs. This does not mean that this behaviour is good or socially acceptable. There are also plenty of younger and impressionable people on this forum, many of which may look up to some of the older players for inspiration etc. I really think promoting drugs like acid when there are 13 year old kids who are going to read the post - and even an 8 or 9 year old - is pretty wrong.

Kids - drugs are very often used irresponsibly and can lead to serious damage. Most drugs are harmful to your body and to your footbag skills.

mattkain · Post by **mattkain** » 02 Dec 2005 18:14

Thank you, Jeremy O. I agree with and support everything you said.

MattKain

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » 02 Dec 2005 20:31

its hard for me to imagine kids reading the things i type

kids: drugs are a true test of yoru character - if you are weak - they will DESTROY you - if you are strong - they will enrich your life. once you try them, you are permenantly changed... you can always try them later, so waiting will never lose you anything

BainbridgeShred · Post by **BainbridgeShred** » 02 Dec 2005 22:59

Maybe for the "drug threads," instead of doing something insipid like talking about hookups for said substance, why not just talk about experiences, reactions, and advice instead of what's going on and letting Dan hop from thread to thread flaming?

No offense, Dan, it's just getting old reading the same story in a different context from you. The thread feuds between you and Jeremy or you and the mods is getting boring.

What the fuck? Where in this thread have I hopped "from thread to thread" flaming? I haven't said anything here you fucking moron. If you have a problem with me, send me a PM and we can talk like men. Where the fuck do you get the nerve to call me out in a thread where I've only put forth a reasonable, educated statement? I will again say, if you have a problem with me, send me a PM instead of trying to prove something infront of the "modified community". And that goes for anyone who has something to say to me that is totally off topic.

BainbridgeShred · Post by **BainbridgeShred** » 02 Dec 2005 23:02

kids: drugs are a true test of yoru character - if you are weak - they will DESTROY you - if you are strong - they will enrich your life. once you try them, you are permenantly changed... you can always try them later, so waiting will never lose you anything

Agreed. I co-sign this post 100%.

A question like "where can I get acid" is pretty innapropriate and not an image I want to see promoted with anything I'm involved with. This has nothing to do with my personal stance on drugs - which are very liberal - but about what I'm comfortable in being connected with on a public non-anonymous forum.

I'm going to take your side here too O'Wheel. I think that that question was innapropriate, and I apologize for any part I played in that thread. I have come to the conclussion that such threads should be removed from modified, diverging from my original opinion.

Blackend · Post by **Blackend** » 02 Dec 2005 23:28

My point is you bitch overreactively and lash out at anyone who says anything that you don't like. I don't have a problem with you, when I met you in Portland you seemed like a nice guy, but you take things way out of proportion.

BainbridgeShred · Post by **BainbridgeShred** » 03 Dec 2005 00:19

I never seemed like a nice guy to you because I never met you in Portland. You're thinking of someone else, dude.

sampotter · Post by **sampotter** » 03 Dec 2005 02:29

You definitely didn't meet Dan in Portland, Sam... Maybe you're thinking of Danny, or me... or Scott.

dragonhack · Post by **dragonhack** » 03 Dec 2005 08:38

does my who quit drugs thread count or can that stay since it's like a support thread for those that are trying to better themselves?

wolfpac444 · Post by **wolfpac444** » 03 Dec 2005 16:08

BainbridgeShred wrote:
kids: drugs are a true test of yoru character - if you are weak - they will DESTROY you - if you are strong - they will enrich your life. once you try them, you are permenantly changed... you can always try them later, so waiting will never lose you anything
Agreed. I co-sign this post 100%.

I would like to add the Microsoft Xbox gaming platform, the Banach-Tarski paradox, and Oprah's book club to the list of true tests of your character.

professor · Post by **professor** » 03 Dec 2005 16:26

It doesn't matter if people think we should be able to talk about drugs on modified because in the end, it's what the mods/admins say that goes. If you don't like it then leave. The mods/admins have the power to choose what they want to allow and what they don't, and if you want to have a say in the matter apply to be a mod or admin.

This is the internet, it's not a democracy.