That video just made me so sick to my stomach. They were still alive! Atleast take them out of their misery if you are gonna do that! That was worse than seeing some of the sick stuff on um...i forgot the site's name...they have nasty pictures of mostly dead people on it...help me out here. Rotten.com!
EDIT: I'm gonna take that guy and throw him into the ground and hang him by his feet while I rip his skin off. Then I'll let him lie there in pain...maybe step on his neck if he gives me any problems.
Maybe it would have been better if you hadn't even posted that link... Some people are SO cruel.
Seeing that badger (or whatever it was) there without it's fur mayde me feel like vomiting.
And all those cute furballs in their cages waiting for their turn...
Mkay. As part of the internet troll community (TWS and various guro BBSes), I can definitely say that anyone with a weak stomach should NOT watch that. Almost wishing that I didn't.
Compared to this, Rotten.com is nil. I've seen a lot of stuff on Rotten and I find it bearable. Why? Because I know that a good portion of the things there are fake.
What interests me most, however, is how in hell did PETA get these videos? What retard working on one of these would allow some activist to make a movie out of their activities? Hypocritical, isn't it?
Also, I am hoping that they have a counter that measures where the video was stopped. The statistics would be interesting to see. I managed to get to around 70% before I couldn't stand it...
Btw, for those who want a textual form of this sort of evil, read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle. It also describes the various conditions people and animals had to go through in the meat industry before there was labour reform. It's a good read.
I haven't watched this video, and I don't intend on, but I got a pure bread Red Bone Coonhound from the pound (Worth about 600 dollars, so it's funny that someone would give it away). Turns out that she'd actually been sent back to the pound 3 times by different owners, and if she came back once more they'd put her down. We figured something was wrong with her from the moment we heard that she'd been sent back 3 times, and it's crazy because their are some random items that just totally freak the shit out of her. She knows where we put the vacuum and brooms and shit and if she even hears us opening the door she freaks out and starts biting shit and howling (Coonhounds have cool barks FYI). Anyways, we figure that she was probably abused in her former homes with the items she seems to despise, but other than that she's a really great dog.
In conclusion, hitting an animal is one step below hitting a woman.
Bagira wrote:What interests me most, however, is how in hell did PETA get these videos? What retard working on one of these would allow some activist to make a movie out of their activities? Hypocritical, isn't it?
That's what I was wondering. If I was that PETA member filming that...I would beating the crap outta that man and letting all the animals free instead of watching them get skinned to death. And yeah, I don't think those people would even let a PETA member in their facilities.
I think PETA is about propaganda. Although what is happening to the animals is wrong, I for some reason think this clip is being staged for the sake of PETA's hyped up viewpoints to get across a severe messege and actually make people gasp at the injustice. I think PETA is a group of hypocrites who spends more money on self-promotion than putting that money towards their cause. As people have said earlier, why didn't the photographer stop all this and act towards their cause like they are always preaching instead of filming this shit of a piece of propaganda?
I'd never trust an organization that doesn't practice what they preach. One has to wonder how PETA gets all their footage on their website. False information and staging is what allows PETA to continue to thrive.
It's hard to say towards the extent of people acting on animal cruelty/abuse. Just think about it. Skinning, butchering, etc. The products we buy like food and clothing worldwide is based on economic demand. For what Mikhal mentioned on the book The Jungle still relates today, and other books like Fast Food Nation explain our concerns furthermore.
Let's delve further towards an economical and capitalistic viewpoint.
*Graphic Explanation*
Americans love beef. Beef come from cows. Restaurants, like McDonalds, need beef to thrive economically. Slaughterhouses are made for this, and what can be found inside can be seen as cruel and unusual. The method to killing cows and butchering them has its flaws, sometimes running the chance that after giving the animal an expected killer blow it can still be alive. In the case of a cow going through a slaughterhouse, they are hoisted into the air by chains, and as they enter the complex they are immediately given a crushing blow to the head with a mallet at high speeds. There's a chance that the cow can still be alive, but in essence it was predetermined that that animal is to die, whether through the mallet, slitting its throat for reassurance, or through the butchering/skinning procedure.
And as a slaughterhouse, it's not particularly the cleanest place you'll find anywhere. It's pactically the opposite. Feces and urine can be found almost anywhere, with drainage systems located around the floor being the few areas to drain the wastes away from the work area. Removing the organs from animals is a tedious process as well - with extremely sharp knives as the only tool precision cuts are the means in separating those containing wastes and the meat that we people eat. Of course, with all this explained, cleaning is much needed as well and proficiently utilized. Though this may be the case, there're some big business beef industries that overlook on this and other more more important matters as well - taking in effect of cheap labor, cutting costs, and further speed up assembly lines into butchering more cows to supplement higher demand. With so much waste even being part of a cleaning crew can run the risk of death, as the cumulative toxic fumes can easily poison a person to death. It's all about the money in cases like these, where even a severed finger or arm from workers isn't too common if you work as a butcher in an assembly line at a slaughterhouse.
*End Graphic Explanation*
It's revenue, cutting costs, double booking, etc. to cover higher demands for people wanting to eat beef every day or week. Injections can be costly to cause a quick and sentimental death for an animal, but how are we to be affected with animals that are injected if we wish to consume it's meat (if the situation comes to that)? If we slaughter it, then how do we manage on cleaning the animal so that bio doesn't spread over it's body as it decomposes? Cleaning costs? Labor costs? It's all about demand, and the frequency that can be hasten to supplement growing demand. It's an ugly world if you ask me.
But I digress, as any place other than a few slaughterhouses found in America isn't the same as most countries as well. Also, the laws towards animal cruelty is different. What we may find unacceptable to some practices are different in other countries. What we find as friends for common pets can be a delicacy in other countries, so it's a sporadic and variable factor that's hard to delve with in debate. Like Peng said, PETA is a propagnda assocation. They are nowhere near in explaining the truth of the matter - just pressing to one side and shoving it in our faces forcefully without thinking clearly about it. And to what and how do our sentiments go if we do manage to set a few animals free? It may affect economic expectations for the common desires we usually take for granted in society. Again, it's hard to say.
I think I covered what I have to say, and damn was it long.
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How the fuck could someone be so cruel. I can understand that people view animals differently. I can understand hunting - being part of the food chain, etc (though I wouldn't do it, or necessarily condone it). I don't understand what I saw in that video - the absolute apathy for those animals. I would think most people wouldn't want a being to suffer. Are those people in the video evil or are they just accustomed to treating animals like other "lifeless" things (rocks, grass, wood)?
I don't know what percentage of people regard animals with such apathy, but that attitude is fucked up. Ethical relativism does not apply here, causing suffering or letting it happen is absolutely wrong.
mmmm, yummy.
actually, it got pretty boring after the first few blood-soaked, skinless animals
Your comment wasn't funny. Your forum image is not any greater. You just made an incredibly stupid remark.
stuff it and stop being such a bitch. first of all, i wouldnt be suprised if it was faked, and i dont care if it isnt. pain is pain and death is death, but not in the same way between man and animal. like someone else said, dont act so high and mighty unless you dont indirectly lead to the death of other organisms, especially the larger ones who apparently have more feelings than the smaller ones. if you want to make an angry response to this, PM me, you will thank me later when it saves you from looking like a hypocritical bitch in front of EVERYONE
Wow you sound like Eric Cartman! Good work on acting like a tough guy (on the internet no less), it's humourously juxtaposed by the fact that you cry yourself to bed every night. Thanks for the laugh.
Troy Erstling 
Some people are SO cruel.
