I want to be a boondock saint

tuomoruutufan · Post by **tuomoruutufan** » 25 Jan 2006 10:19

In chicago a preist that has been at the forefront of the anti child molestation issues has been charged with with sexual assualt of an 8 year old boy, this has opened a can of worms of boys completely unfamiliar with the first ones case to have near identical accusations.

This makes me want to believe in hell, if these sick fucks can exist i really want to believe they have it coming to them, but i dont. Its completely illogical and silly to think an actual heaven and hell exist.

I have chosen many years ago to live a positive healthy life of just striving happily to survive in this society without the pipe dreams or comfort of some blind faith. I dont want to discredit or ruin anyone elses faith, to be honest im slightly jeoulos of those who are able to believe these comforts actually exist.

but the fact remains no matter what you beleive we all live by the same insticts, we all wake up and feel hunger, we all get thirsty, our bodies and minds are the same. so believing in god or following christianity/catholism does not mean you inner demons no longer exist, it does not mean you wont murder, rape, molest, lie, cheat, and or anything thing else your religion is suposed to be against.

People have blindly trusted these sick fucking perverts that pretend to be servants of god, if these people are servants of god, and god is real then fuck god too! some of you may be thinking oh its just a few bad apples, think again. think about how this is now coming to the publics attention, think about how many have done this throughout the ages and just never got reported cause they are servants of god. do some research and count the number of preist that are getting caught didling boys every fucking chance they get, and then add the assumed number of incidents that still to this day go un reported. Im a safe to assume thats more than a few bad apples?

I will not change my lifestyle i will live my religous free life and lead by example, on how great of a human one can be with absolutely no faith or belief in any higher purpose, my purpose is to do what i can with the body nature gave me and the mind my parents, teachers, and freinds have helped develop into what iam today, No mythical figure gets credit for my accmomplishments and life decisions.

but you fucking child molesting preists look out, in the far fetched case that i get diagnosed with some kind of terminal life ending disease (knock on wood) im going boondock saints on your ass. Murder is one of mans lost natural insticts, i will not hesitate to find that instict if i have nothing else to live for!

defend your religion and the actions of these preists all you want i dont care, put yourself in the place of the parents or in the place of the children getting molested and its safe to say no matter what the bible says about murder you wouldnt be using your constitutional right to bare arms for hunting.

Kerr · Post by **Kerr** » 25 Jan 2006 10:39

Amen!

Boondock saints is a great movie

BainbridgeShred · Post by **BainbridgeShred** » 25 Jan 2006 10:42

defend your religion and the actions of these preists all you want i dont care

As much as you probably want someone to, I don't think you'll find many people who want to defend the actions of those priests.

tuomoruutufan · Post by **tuomoruutufan** » 25 Jan 2006 10:56

Well you would be surprised dude

People will say its because they are not allowed to get married, and people will say well i dont really believe in church and preists i just believe in god.

so those are the typical but yet meaningless/trivial defenses people will put up against the idea that it doesnt matter what you beleive you are always and will always be subjected to the actions of your natural insticts no matter how fucked up and twisted those insticts are they will come out in one way or the other no matter how closely you follow the path of god and or the ways of the bible.

BainbridgeShred · Post by **BainbridgeShred** » 25 Jan 2006 11:04

You do realize that you're arguing against yourself right now right?

BainbridgeShred · Post by **BainbridgeShred** » 25 Jan 2006 11:06

People will say its because they are not allowed to get married, and people will say well i dont really believe in church and preists i just believe in god.

Priests aren't not only supposed to get married, but also aren't suppose to have sexual relations, especially with boys.

hackeysnacker · Post by **hackeysnacker** » 25 Jan 2006 11:07

Perhaps these men realize their nature and become priests to atone for their twisted urges and to curb their deviant appetites, only to fall weak when they're alone with a little boy. Maybe that's why so many priests happen to be pedophiles.. When asked where he was touched the little boy pointed to the confession booth.

HighDemonslayer · Post by **HighDemonslayer** » 25 Jan 2006 15:45

Given tuomoruutufan's strong opinion on this one, I have to logically assume that if Pope Benedict does what he wants to do....purge (non-violently, mind you) as many gays as possible, from as many seminaries and other religious institutions as possible, tuomoruutufan would support that action.

Now I wonder, before I was born, back in the 60's and 70's, did the church get sued a 1000 times, in order to force them to accept homosexuals into all the seminaries???

Was the church strong-armed by activists to look the other way and allow the whole system to be infected?

We should save some anger for all the public school molesters out there. They don't get much press(I know why), but there is probably 100 molester-teachers out there, for every 1 molester-priest. Just a thought.

-n

professor · Post by **professor** » 25 Jan 2006 16:08

I'm definitely not for the priests nor am I catholic, but I do consider myself a christian. I'd like to comment on things said.

but the fact remains no matter what you beleive we all live by the same insticts, we all wake up and feel hunger, we all get thirsty, our bodies and minds are the same. so believing in god or following christianity/catholism does not mean you inner demons no longer exist, it does not mean you wont murder, rape, molest, lie, cheat, and or anything thing else your religion is suposed to be against.

You are totally correct. It seems that you had an assumption that christians or catholics were "supposed" to be perfect or something. Of course we all make mistakes and if people didn't make mistakes, there would be no need for faith.

People have blindly trusted these sick fucking perverts that pretend to be servants of god, if these people are servants of god, and god is real then fuck god too!

I don't think you can rightfully judge these priests unless you know them personally. Yes these priest have done an outright despicable thing, but that doesn't mean they haven't served God with their lives and done many good things. And conversely, just because someone does good things doesn't mean they are good. You said above that nobody is perfect, even priests, and then now you are condeming them (and even God) for not being perfect.

Which brings me to my next comment. How can you say that because people who claim to follow God do horrible things, it must mean God is horrible? It's if I were to say since some of the people who play footbag have committed serious crimes it must mean that footbag is just as bad as those people. Or because some people in a country commit crimes it must mean the leader of that country also commits the same crimes.

I will not change my lifestyle i will live my religous free life and lead by example, on how great of a human one can be with absolutely no faith or belief in any higher purpose

That's the thing. No human can be great. Everyone messes up, and when you mess up once, you're not great anymore. Faith in God is not about being great or living a good life, it's about realizing that you aren't great and accepting God's help to make you better.

Again I'm not defending or condoning what these priests have done, but I'm identifying fuzzy logic and clarifying the misconceptions you have about followers of God and God himself (whether or not you believe in that sort of thing).

tuomoruutufan · Post by **tuomoruutufan** » 25 Jan 2006 17:31

I don't think you can rightfully judge these priests unless you know them personally. Yes these priest have done an outright despicable thing, but that doesn't mean they haven't served God with their lives and done many good things. And conversely, just because someone does good things doesn't mean they are good. You said above that nobody is perfect, even priests, and then now you are condeming them (and even God) for not being perfect.

If serving god means you accindentally didlle with my kids penis you are a fucking dead man in my books,

Religion is suposed to be something safe, something you trust something that is always there for you, and its evident its not even that anymore.

Who here can rightfully say they will ever trust there children being in a church can officially be classified as a bad parent. im not saying every church has a molestor but seriously how could you honestly know or tell if they diddle with the altar boys or not?

My point is your beleifs have nothing to do with your actions they are completely seperate. I dont care if its the reincarnate of jesus himself spreading the word of god, if spreading the word of god means didling my children, its time to make a sequel to passion of the christ cause jesus is a fucking dead man.

Brainbridgeshred i told you somebody was gonna defend these sick fucking perverts.

AND I DONT NEED TO KNOW ANYBODY PERSONALLY, IF YOU MOLEST CHILDREN YOU NEED TO BE SHOT,

[Sarcasm font] Wishing death upon repeat child molesters is such a contreversial topic, man i wish i didnt have these evil contreversial opinions and i could get along with child molesters around the world, i guess i havnt gotten to know them well enough

Your fait is so important and so valuable that these are the kind of people who represent it, if it doesnt make you think twice than i feel validated to acuse you of being a little naive.

BainbridgeShred · Post by **BainbridgeShred** » 25 Jan 2006 17:48

Religion is suposed to be something safe, something you trust something that is always there for you, and its evident its not even that anymore.

You're extremely misguided if you think it ever was.

Shouldn't shy you away from faith though.

professor · Post by **professor** » 25 Jan 2006 22:56

tuomoruutufan wrote:Brainbridgeshred i told you somebody was gonna defend these sick fucking perverts.

I wrote:I'm definitely not for the priests nor am I catholic

I wrote:Again I'm not defending or condoning what these priests have done

I made sure I said it twice so people would get it...

tuomoruutufan wrote:Religion is suposed to be something safe, something you trust something that is always there for you, and its evident its not even that anymore.

If you think this you are sorely wrong. Jesus came to earth and who did he yell at? The church, the religious people of his day, the equivalent to priests of today. God is not religion, religion is people.

Try and follow my logic here.

Religion is made up of people.
People do horrible things, even "good" people. Whatever "good" is.
So why would you think that any person would always be there for you? People will always let you down, no matter who it is because we all make bad choices. People seem to mix up religion and God a lot, when they are totally seperate things.

My point is your beleifs have nothing to do with your actions they are completely seperate. I dont care if its the reincarnate of jesus himself spreading the word of god, if spreading the word of god means didling my children, its time to make a sequel to passion of the christ cause jesus is a fucking dead man.

This is so wrong on so many levels.

You actually believe that your beliefs have ABSOLUTELY NO affect on your actions? None whatsoever? When you wrote this statement you performed an action. This action was prompted by your belief that beliefs have NOTHING to do with actions. Effectively, proving your statement wrong.

I don't think it is appropriate to make light of murdering anyone, especially the son of God.

Your fait is so important and so valuable that these are the kind of people who represent it, if it doesnt make you think twice than i feel validated to acuse you of being a little naive.

I don't really know what this statement is really saying, but I'll try and comment. Priests do not represent my faith. God does. If you associate every person who believes in God with these priests then YOU are the one with problem.

For the last time: I AM NOT DEFENDING THESE PREISTS. I THINK ANYONE WHO HARMS CHILDREN IN ANY WAY SHOULD GO TO JAIL FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. I AM COMMENTING ON STATEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE MADE THAT I FOUND WERE INCORRECT OR THAT HAD FAULTY LOGIC.

BainbridgeShred · Post by **BainbridgeShred** » 26 Jan 2006 07:21

Brainbridgeshred i told you somebody was gonna defend these sick fucking perverts.

As far as I can tell, Proffesor is in no way defending any of the priests.

HighDemonslayer · Post by **HighDemonslayer** » 26 Jan 2006 09:20

Bravo! Molestors and worse should be shot.

The more deviance our judges will allow, the more "vigilant" the people will have to be.

I read that in Indonesia , if there is a child molestor or rapist, they chase him down and lynch him right there, on the spot.

Sure, let's hope things never denegrate to that level, but if an arrest is just a guarantee that he'll be released into some other neighboorhood.....

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Religion can't be trusted completely, because people abuse the power. You can't stick your head in the sand and assume: religion = safe.

-n

HighDemonslayer · Post by **HighDemonslayer** » 26 Jan 2006 09:25

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-n

Iron Clad Ben · Post by **Iron Clad Ben** » 26 Jan 2006 10:32

tuomoruutufan wrote:but you fucking child molesting preists look out, in the far fetched case that i get diagnosed with some kind of terminal life ending disease (knock on wood) im going boondock saints on your ass.

I'm remembering this line for the next time someone F's with me. "I'm gonna go boondock saints on your @$$"

tuomoruutufan · Post by **tuomoruutufan** » 26 Jan 2006 21:11

yeah you gotta memorize that bad ass prayer, and dont forget the pennys

brycimus · Post by **brycimus** » 08 Feb 2006 16:28

ok i'm a Catholic - i don't believe everything that Catholicism says but i believe & follow almost all of it.

first of all i'm not defending the priests in any way, i also believe they should go to jail for a very, very long time as mentioned above

the priests have sinned by molesting children, but someone turning around and shooting them in the head doesn't make it any better, it may make you feel better knowing that they're gone, but no one has the right to end a person's life, no one except God - although the US does have the death penalty (i think they should just lock them up for life in a high security prison)

also, who the fuck said serving God means "diddling" with children, obviously the priests do that but i highly doubt they think - serving God=diddling with children.

another point (not defending they're actions - but just think about it) - do you not think that the priests regret what they do everyday, they know it's wrong & they know they're sinning and they know they might go to hell for it. but that's the way they were made, they can't help it. obviously they don't think about it when they go and do it though - they've got a serious problem - it's like an addiction to drugs.

another point - Jesus WOULDN'T BE DIDDLING WITH KIDS - he's the son of GOD - God is Jesus - they're perfect ---- and fuck you for saying Jesus is a fucking dead man, Jesus died for everyone that will ever walk this planet (even the child molesters) so that they can have salvation after they die

God gave people free will, he knows what you are going to do because he is everpresent and all knowing/seeing, but he's not controlling you like a puppet and saying "now you will do this"

if you go and kill priests/child molesters, not only can you expect that they will most likely go to hell for their sins (unless the repent to God and give up themselves to God) but you can expect to go to hell too, even if you don't believe in it.

dp · Post by dp » 08 Feb 2006 17:55

How do you know God did all this stuff? Have you ever had a conversation with him? How do you know this God didn't tell the priests to do what they did? Are you and God good buddies?

Also, an independent matter, so, why does this "God", send everyone who's not a Christian to hell. Or maybe you think all non-catholics. "He"'s gonna send 5 billion people who are living today to hell? That doesn't seem like a loving God, sending 5/6 of his people to burn eternally.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 08 Feb 2006 18:25

I don't believe in evil and I think people do things percieved as "evil" because they have something wrong with them. That doesn't excuse their actions - I believe people should be responsible for their own actions no matter how many different things influence them but I also can sympathise with people who have such serious problems that they behave in a completely socially unacceptable manner. I think that demonising such people achieves nothing and both the people in question and society need to be protected from their actions but physically harming them or seeking revenge is counter productive and achieves nothing positive. I think there is no place in the law for peoples emotions (except in gauging the damage caused by the actions) and that punishments driven by emotions are morally wrong.

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