.....tieing off?

Lazytowner · Post by **Lazytowner** » 20 Feb 2006 07:24

Man, I should've asked this question about a year ago: Is there a certain way to tie a knot to tie off the bag by not wrapping the string over the top of the seam tieing off like that?...i feel so retarded asking this question...

Here's an example of what I'm talkin' about:

I've been using this method since I first started...and I think it's the prime reason my panels are distorted near the bleed holes, like this:

I think my n00b method 'hehe' is what's causing this hideous distortion in my panels..and I'm not sure of a stable way to tie off my panels from inside - rather than wrapping around the top of the seam.....

Kerr · Post by **Kerr** » 20 Feb 2006 08:05

I put the needle flush to the fabric with the point over the edge (about 1 cm) then wrap the thread aorund the needle once, put my thumb where the thread is, then pull the needle through. repeat.

You should use only one thread for one pent. It seams that you use 5 is this true?

Lazytowner · Post by **Lazytowner** » 20 Feb 2006 08:38

I use one thread, but I tie off after each seam.

Lazytowner · Post by **Lazytowner** » 20 Feb 2006 08:43

Kerr wrote:I put the needle flush to the fabric with the point over the edge (about 1 cm) then wrap the thread aorund the needle once, put my thumb where the thread is, then pull the needle through. repeat.

You should use only one thread for one pent. It seams that you use 5 is this true?

I don't exactly get what you mean. Eh, it's kinda hard to take verbal hints.
Could you elaborate on that explanation?

Kerr · Post by **Kerr** » 20 Feb 2006 08:58

if the thread is to the left while lieing on top of the fabric , then point the neddle towards your face and wrap the tread anti-clockwise around the needle, pull it so were the loop is where the thread originally came out, put your thumb/finger on to then pull the needle throught the loop.

Pengu · Post by **Pengu** » 20 Feb 2006 09:16

So, this hasn't been put up yet on the www.kingstonfootbag.com website where we will permanently have a 32 panel stitching tutorial, but here is an image I think may help. Sorry for being so crudely drawn.

There is actually an 8th hole in the hexagons that attaches the two hexagons. You do not actually need to tie off until the end of a pentagon. You can go all the way around on one thread and then gather.

Now follow the arrows of the diagram. You can see how you make the 3 full stitches and the 6 basic stitch holes in blue. Then the pink holes are the 1st and 8th holes in the hexagons. Instead of going through the pentagon, you attach the two hexagons together through the 8th hole of the first hexagon and the 1st hole of the second hexagon. Then make your 2nd hole in your hexagon go through the 1st hole in the next side of the pentagon. Now repeat on all sides until you attach the first hexagon and the fifth hexagon together through their 8th and 1st holes. Now you tie off.

I hope that makes things a little clearer. It's difficult to explain. I know I got wordy.

Lazytowner · Post by **Lazytowner** » 20 Feb 2006 10:18

Hmm, that helps alot too. I'll try stitching without tieing off after every single seam with the bag I'm cuttin' out now. Thanks alot Peng.

Guest_2 · Post by **Guest_2** » 20 Feb 2006 10:47

Don't you use the same hole for this stitch?

I'm teaching a few people to stitch today-I don't want to teach them wrong!

Matt_mcfarland · Post by **Matt_mcfarland** » 20 Feb 2006 10:50

no if that was the same hole then you would only have 5 holes on each side of your pent

Guest_2 · Post by **Guest_2** » 20 Feb 2006 11:02

Fuck

Pengu · Post by **Pengu** » 20 Feb 2006 12:37

This is by no means the only way to stitch a 32. This is just basic instructions. Stitchers all stitch differently and place holes at different places, etc. Variations can turn out good or bad. It's great to experiment with stitching style.

Lazytowner · Post by **Lazytowner** » 20 Feb 2006 14:35

Yeh, I just '30 minutes ago' found that method of stitching it extremely hard...I'm just so paranoid that the panels will lose their gather...plus my stitching consistency BOMBED, prolly because I'm just not used to stitching this way. I guess practice is the only solution here....and more experimenting O_o - wow, stitching is a science!

Kerr · Post by **Kerr** » 20 Feb 2006 14:53

Did you firgure out the final knot?

akalazou · Post by **akalazou** » 20 Feb 2006 15:10

i know that to put a loop in that last stitch by side helps alot with consistence... but i have this problem too, i didnt try what Peng put yet on facile because i didnt like it on my old fabric, can i avoid that thing easyer if i dont loop ?? or its just because im not in a straight line ? or the distance between my holes arent consistent ??? i tried to figure this out but every time i think i got the clue, im wrong

, but i can do good last stitches, but it seems to be all luck

Lazytowner · Post by **Lazytowner** » 20 Feb 2006 16:11

Kerr wrote:Did you firgure out the final knot?

Yeah I've got it down now. Thanks!

Kerr · Post by **Kerr** » 20 Feb 2006 16:41

no problem, glad i could help

Pengu · Post by **Pengu** » 20 Feb 2006 17:51

Lazytowner wrote:...I'm just so paranoid that the panels will lose their gather...

Here's a hint, some people gather around a pencap after stitching all the way around for consistency. Then you can tie off after you've got the amount of gather you want. This method is very logical and is quite a bit more efficient than tying off at every edge. However, if you find a method that works better for you, more power to you.