Today I have just completed 10 infinities in a row. I have been struggling with this for a while and was finally able to hit it, not by doing infinities over and over again, but by concentrating on the positioning of my upper body, arms, facial expression, etc.
This leads me to Kenny Shults. I have heard that he is one of the main originators of freestyle. Pretty much every trick I do, there is a good chance it is based on something Kenny invented. This is amazing. This may even be fantastic! Mad respect. Now that this is said, Let the poll COMMENCE! Also, I do not care if you hate me now. Please, show the hate. But be discussionful about it.
Btw, I also watched tricks of the trade 1 and 2. Compared to the practice room videos on flipsider.com, they are trash. It's like learning how to dance ballet from earnest. Sure, he is funny looking, and can wield electricity, and save christmas. TotT2 is boring with all the history stuff, but that is a different topic. Also, TotT2 looks like it was made the same year as TotT1, but obviously it was not.
POLL!
Should the enforcer be enforced upon?
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everyone's style is diferent. Do not clown somebody who is much better than you, especially one who is esteemed in the world of footbag and then expect to get props/respect from other footbaggers. It is disrespectful.
On another note, yes, sometimes Kenny's style isnt very graceful, but who says that grace is a requisite for freestyle? When one is linking 5s and 6s, one cannot expect to look like a pretty balerina, such as Lon Smith always seems to. Im not clowning Lon, its just freakish how perfectly balanced and controlled he always seems to be. Most of us footbaggers aren't like that.
On another note, Kenny prolly did not invent most of the moves that you do right now. I think Rippin Rick Reese invented most of them. Additionally, there were other great players besides Kenny who were his conpemporaries, or may even have pre-dated him, that made up the basic moves like butterfly, pdx mirage, osis, etc.
No one else has ever hit a 9 add trick. History is important. Now go home and school yourself. You have been enforced upon.
Jeremy
On another note, yes, sometimes Kenny's style isnt very graceful, but who says that grace is a requisite for freestyle? When one is linking 5s and 6s, one cannot expect to look like a pretty balerina, such as Lon Smith always seems to. Im not clowning Lon, its just freakish how perfectly balanced and controlled he always seems to be. Most of us footbaggers aren't like that.
On another note, Kenny prolly did not invent most of the moves that you do right now. I think Rippin Rick Reese invented most of them. Additionally, there were other great players besides Kenny who were his conpemporaries, or may even have pre-dated him, that made up the basic moves like butterfly, pdx mirage, osis, etc.
No one else has ever hit a 9 add trick. History is important. Now go home and school yourself. You have been enforced upon.
Jeremy
My name: Jeremy Mirken, AKA Chocolatey Shatner, AKA jerk enemy rim.
I kick it with trunk chef elf and liz luck key my.
I kick it with trunk chef elf and liz luck key my.
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See that was a great reply. I have been enforced. You said pretty ballerina and Lon in the same sentence. You were totally good though. Oh my god Lon is a pretty ballerina. No, wait. Oh my god. LOL! I fell out of my chair. Ah but, less talk more schooling.
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Would ballet help make you better at footbag?
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Would ballet help make you better at footbag?
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THIS IS NOT FOR SERIOUS FOOTBAG DISCUSSION, IT IS FOR DISCUSSION OF A GAME, COMPLETELY UNREALTED TO FOOTBAG, JUST HAPPENS TO BE HERE. NOT ONLY IS YOUR POST ALL OF THE THINGS JEREMY POINTED OUT, BUT IN THE WRONG SECTION ENTIRELY AND THEREFORE PROVES YOU STUPIDITY EVEN FURTHER!!
GO AWAY!
GO AWAY!
"Be the change you wish to see in the world" - Gandhi
Er...it's not GAME DISCUSSION. I had put it up for a gaming forum, everyone is free to use it. It's discussion could be political in nature, or perhaps a discussion concerning why does everyone seem to hate Michael Jackson. It's here to discuss, things.
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this is the 44 Wand, the most powerful Handwand in the world, so did i fire 5 or 6 fireballs? now you got to ask yourself one question pal, do i feel lucky? well do ya punk.
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I do think this post woudl be better in the kicking circle. That said, there are many different styles of playing you can do. It's up to you, more or less, how graceful you want to be. I mean I can hit paradox mirage every now and again, but I'm still not that graceful. That's my style, and I will improve on it as time goes on. You have to not hate in footbag, unless there is no chance they will ever become good, point in case, my girlfriend's brother.
... and is dicussionful even a word?
... and is dicussionful even a word?
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Just to stay in the spirit of discussionfulnessness, I'll try type in the same spirit as we started off with (that is, the discussionable atmosphere conduvice of discussionality.) 
Offhand I'd guess there'd be more than a thousand players better than you both stylewise and in technicality, all of them who don't share the same feelings towards Kenny that you have. As a guess, you may be a prodigy stuck in the wrong era (ten infinities? try a few decades ago).
Saying that you think ToTT1 and 2 are trash when compared to the flipsider practise room doesn't really promote the discussionfullnessible atmoshpere that you seem eager to own in. It isn't presenting a reason for your thinking so but stating what you think is important. Either way, it doesn't seem to be what people want to hear in any case. But generally people would rather hear reasons and justifications rather than unsubstantiated opinion. I'll try to guess why you consider ToTT2 to be trash though.
Both the flipsider practise room and the ToTTs have their merits. In some respects, it may be less practical to use ToTT2 as operating a VCR tends to be more tedious and imprecise. Unless you don't have easy access to the internet (and we all know that richness doesn't equate to skill. as I understand it, Vasek doesn't have a particularly wealthy background and his skill is phenomenal).
Also if you wanted to learn a move like, say, a witchdoctor, unless you have Lynton or another quite highly skilled player around, ToTT2 would be one of the best sources to turn to. But when you come around to wanting learn how to learn a mxyzptlk, a witchdoctor and other moves that are hard to get footage of, be stay true to your opinion and not use ToTT2.
ToTT2 is made to be an instructional video, it's not meant to be artwork but to show people a large element of what freestyle has to offer. I think if Kenny's bits on ToTT2 were to suddenly disappear, ToTT2 would become less effective in fulfilling its purpose. Now if the presence of Kenny on ToTT2 makes it trash, then that would mean the purpose of showing a large element of freestyle is trashy too. Which kind of goes to show that variety is unimportant, as being able to do ten infinities is definetely the work of a prodigious and discussionable talentfulness.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not too interested in learning about much of the history of footbag either. But some parts of the history section of ToTT2 were somewhat interesting, and if you don't like that section, then you can always fast forward or delete it or, if you really hate it, copy the tape onto another tape but don't include the history section.
Now, as for Mr Shults himself. I think, after playing for as long as he has, he would have quit by now if he were only doing it for the fame and publicity, not that there's much of that in footbag. Perhaps he just does it because he enjoys the challenges that footbag has to offer. Nobody should be able to take that away from anyone. If you play because you want fame or attention, thats fine, but not everyone has the same motives for playing footbag.
Seeya.
PS: Congratulations on hitting a couple of infinities in a row. Try and do a sonic butterfly without moving around much, and if you can't I suggest not making comments about the precision of execution but just appreciate the difficulty of the move if anything.
Offhand I'd guess there'd be more than a thousand players better than you both stylewise and in technicality, all of them who don't share the same feelings towards Kenny that you have. As a guess, you may be a prodigy stuck in the wrong era (ten infinities? try a few decades ago).
Saying that you think ToTT1 and 2 are trash when compared to the flipsider practise room doesn't really promote the discussionfullnessible atmoshpere that you seem eager to own in. It isn't presenting a reason for your thinking so but stating what you think is important. Either way, it doesn't seem to be what people want to hear in any case. But generally people would rather hear reasons and justifications rather than unsubstantiated opinion. I'll try to guess why you consider ToTT2 to be trash though.
Both the flipsider practise room and the ToTTs have their merits. In some respects, it may be less practical to use ToTT2 as operating a VCR tends to be more tedious and imprecise. Unless you don't have easy access to the internet (and we all know that richness doesn't equate to skill. as I understand it, Vasek doesn't have a particularly wealthy background and his skill is phenomenal).
Also if you wanted to learn a move like, say, a witchdoctor, unless you have Lynton or another quite highly skilled player around, ToTT2 would be one of the best sources to turn to. But when you come around to wanting learn how to learn a mxyzptlk, a witchdoctor and other moves that are hard to get footage of, be stay true to your opinion and not use ToTT2.
ToTT2 is made to be an instructional video, it's not meant to be artwork but to show people a large element of what freestyle has to offer. I think if Kenny's bits on ToTT2 were to suddenly disappear, ToTT2 would become less effective in fulfilling its purpose. Now if the presence of Kenny on ToTT2 makes it trash, then that would mean the purpose of showing a large element of freestyle is trashy too. Which kind of goes to show that variety is unimportant, as being able to do ten infinities is definetely the work of a prodigious and discussionable talentfulness.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not too interested in learning about much of the history of footbag either. But some parts of the history section of ToTT2 were somewhat interesting, and if you don't like that section, then you can always fast forward or delete it or, if you really hate it, copy the tape onto another tape but don't include the history section.
Now, as for Mr Shults himself. I think, after playing for as long as he has, he would have quit by now if he were only doing it for the fame and publicity, not that there's much of that in footbag. Perhaps he just does it because he enjoys the challenges that footbag has to offer. Nobody should be able to take that away from anyone. If you play because you want fame or attention, thats fine, but not everyone has the same motives for playing footbag.
Seeya.
PS: Congratulations on hitting a couple of infinities in a row. Try and do a sonic butterfly without moving around much, and if you can't I suggest not making comments about the precision of execution but just appreciate the difficulty of the move if anything.
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The first time I ever met Kenny Shults was Worlds 99 in Chicago. He was just kinda dicking around by himself, doing clipper based tricks barefoot, like whirling swirl on his ankles. I was too intimidated to approach him when he was in a real circle. So I approach him and say, `hey, I know you`re just messing around, but can I play with you?` and he says sure.
After a bit, some other people come to join. In one rotation of the circle, Kenny picks up the bag and serves himself, because playing barefoot and doing clipper stuff is hard. The second thing I ever said to Kenny was: ` You know, you REALLY aren`t supposed to do that.`
I felt like such a punkass since I enforced the enforcer! Of course, since then we`ve gotten along fine, but I just couldn`t resist enforcing the Enforcer. The funniness of that moment is still one of my favorite footbag moments. A year later we did a presentation together on Good Morning America to promote worlds 2000, that was another highlight of footbag for me.
After a bit, some other people come to join. In one rotation of the circle, Kenny picks up the bag and serves himself, because playing barefoot and doing clipper stuff is hard. The second thing I ever said to Kenny was: ` You know, you REALLY aren`t supposed to do that.`
I felt like such a punkass since I enforced the enforcer! Of course, since then we`ve gotten along fine, but I just couldn`t resist enforcing the Enforcer. The funniness of that moment is still one of my favorite footbag moments. A year later we did a presentation together on Good Morning America to promote worlds 2000, that was another highlight of footbag for me.
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ummmmm. What Acid~Reign said.
You gotta remember, TOTT2 is not about the shred, its about learning how to shred by learning the tricks.
But asside from that, I've realy enjoyed the history section of the tape.
As I'm only a beginner (Novice if I'm lucky), I've found that watching the old skool footage is inspirational in how I link my very few tricks. Back then, some of the shit everyone's hitting now was only dreamed of, so for beginners, it's an excelent resourse.
That asside, Kenny is a champion for doing what he has for the sport. Without people like Kenny, pushing it further than ever, Footbag would still be 'Hacky Sack'... a game for stoned-out hippies.
(Not that there's anything wrong with being a stoned-out hippy - I have my moments - but there's more of a deeper level to it than just kicking a bag of beads around a circle).
If I were a woman, and maybe a bit older, well.... Let's just say, I've a lot to thank Kenny (The Enforcer) Shults for.
You gotta remember, TOTT2 is not about the shred, its about learning how to shred by learning the tricks.
But asside from that, I've realy enjoyed the history section of the tape.
As I'm only a beginner (Novice if I'm lucky), I've found that watching the old skool footage is inspirational in how I link my very few tricks. Back then, some of the shit everyone's hitting now was only dreamed of, so for beginners, it's an excelent resourse.
That asside, Kenny is a champion for doing what he has for the sport. Without people like Kenny, pushing it further than ever, Footbag would still be 'Hacky Sack'... a game for stoned-out hippies.
(Not that there's anything wrong with being a stoned-out hippy - I have my moments - but there's more of a deeper level to it than just kicking a bag of beads around a circle).
If I were a woman, and maybe a bit older, well.... Let's just say, I've a lot to thank Kenny (The Enforcer) Shults for.
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I definitely don't think The Enforcer should be enforced upon. also I'm not voting on this poll because I don't like either of the options.
First, there is nothing wrong with his style & Tricks 2 was great because of him...& Bruce G. I believe.
Second, I don't like the idea of calling him Gumby. I choose Mr. Shults.
peace
First, there is nothing wrong with his style & Tricks 2 was great because of him...& Bruce G. I believe.
Second, I don't like the idea of calling him Gumby. I choose Mr. Shults.
peace