Fun for you Finns

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Fun for you Finns

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Hey all you native Finnish speakers, I have a syntax homework assignment to do on Finnish. I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to give me translations of the following sentences into Finnish:

I play footbag.
I do not play footbag.
I am playing footbag.
I am not playing footbag.
I have played footbag.
I have not played footbag.
I have been playing footbag.
I have not been playing footbag.
I always play footbag.
I do not always play footbag.
I have always played footbag.
I have not always played footbag.
I might play footbag.
I might not play footbag.
I might have played footbag.
I might not have played footbag.
I might have been playing footbag.
I might be playing footbag.
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I play footbag.
Pelaan footbagiä.
I do not play footbag.
En pelaa footbagiä.
I am playing footbag.
Olen pelaamassa footbagiä.
(or pelaan footbagiä)
I am not playing footbag.
En ole pelaamassa footbagiä
I have played footbag.
Olen pelannut footbagiä.
I have not played footbag.
En ole pelannut footbagiä.
I have been playing footbag.
Olen ollut pelaamassa footbagiä.
I have not been playing footbag.
En ole ollut pelaamassa footbagiä.
I always play footbag.
Pelaan aina footbagiä.
I do not always play footbag.
En aina pelaa footbagiä.
I have always played footbag.
Olen aina pelannut footbagiä.
I have not always played footbag.
En ole aina pelannut footbagiä.
I might play footbag.
Saatan pelata footbagiä.
I might not play footbag.
En välttämättä pelaa footbagiä.
I might have played footbag.
Olen saattanut pelata footbagiä.
I might not have played footbag.
En välttämättä ole pelannut footbagiä.
I might have been playing footbag.
Olen saattanut pelata footbagiä.
I might be playing footbag.
Saatan olla pelaamassa footbagiä.

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Post by wolfpac444 »

Thanks, Ville.

Does "ollut" have the same root as "ole"/"olen"? Could I say something like "Olen ollut pelannut footbagiä"?

Can you say things like the following (are they legal sentences)? If so, do they mean the same thing as their "standard form"?

Ole en ollut pelaamassa footbagiä.
Ole ollut en pelaamassa footbagiä.
Aina en pelaa footbagiä.
Ollut olen pelaamassa footbagiä.
Aina olen pelannut footbagiä.
Välttämättä en pelaa footbagiä.
Pelaa en footbagiä.
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Post by mohkale »

wolfpac444 wrote:Thanks, Ville.

Does "ollut" have the same root as "ole"/"olen"? Could I say something like "Olen ollut pelannut footbagiä"?
I believe they all have the same root, "olla" = to be. "ole" is only used in negative sentences, like "en ole..." = "I'm not.../I haven't...". "olen" means "I am / I have".
Can you say things like the following (are they legal sentences)? If so, do they mean the same thing as their "standard form"?

1) Ole en ollut pelaamassa footbagiä.
2) Ole ollut en pelaamassa footbagiä.
3) Aina en pelaa footbagiä.
4) Ollut olen pelaamassa footbagiä.
5) Aina olen pelannut footbagiä.
6) Välttämättä en pelaa footbagiä.
7) Pelaa en footbagiä.
Sentences 1, 2, 4 and 7 are "illegal". 1, 2 & 7 have "en" (=no/not) after the first part of the verb so they are wrong. 4 sounds like Yoda-talk. I believe 3 and 5 aren't really right but (imo) you could get away with those. 6 is legal.

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Post by sniikeri »

Although it's pronounced "footbagiä" (or a Finn would write it "fuutbägiä"), it should be written "footbagia".
This is just a minor mistake, especially because there are no "ä" and "ö" in English, but I just wanted to point this out.
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