extra, little steps

CheeseMan · Post by **CheeseMan** » 15 May 2006 17:16

i've noticed that, in my runs, i always do small, extra steps or plantings. should i get out of this habit? will they affect my game in the long run?

mosher · Post by **mosher** » 15 May 2006 18:06

These are generally not that usefull and are mostly detrimental. On things like infinity and pdx mirage make sure you aren't doing extra little steps, it messes with the timing and looks kinda silly.

hackeysnacker · Post by **hackeysnacker** » 15 May 2006 18:30

it may prevent you from gaining proper balance and will probably mess up your coordination for more advanced future tricks. As Tom said, it looks silly.

shreddaily · Post by **shreddaily** » 15 May 2006 18:32

HOWEVER if you purposely put extra little steps into your game, and especially on spins and ducks it can create a stylee variation on dialed tricks. I also recommend touching the ground with your hand in between spins and staring people in the eyes while you are ducking...
StylIZE the easy moves!

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 16 May 2006 09:34

The best time I've seen extra steps added into a string was when Ken Somolinos tapped his feet on the ground repeatedly whenever he did ripwalks and other multi-dexy moves.

beenjammin · Post by **beenjammin** » 16 May 2006 13:40

IT is not a bad thing at all no matter what those other jerks say that tell you to stop. There are always more than one way to do a trick. FOr example on the pdx mirage you can do it muted, which looks the coolest i think, or you can do it What i like to call "shuffle style". It is good to have both ways down on all of your tricks so you can always mix it up and have a little more style. Just make sure you learn all tricks both ways if possible. Just dont ever tap during ripwalks please!

sidekick · Post by **sidekick** » 16 May 2006 14:12

I think that my favorite example of this is when Noah Jay-Bonn (a shredder here in P-town) would actually plant before a same side swirl. It made the move look cooler because of the extra step. I also found that I plant sometimes after ducks and sometimes I do it like a drifter w/o the dex... same with spinning clipper, I can do them like vortex w/o the drifter or a spinning plant clipper. It's fun to experiment!

shreddaily wrote: staring people in the eyes while you are ducking...

totally crazy... I would get scared if you did that to me Nate.

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 16 May 2006 15:18

Nate, that would be an epic move to do if you did that mid-string! Staring at a person while/after you're ducking/diving is so intimidating.

shreddaily · Post by **shreddaily** » 16 May 2006 16:27

blurryben wrote:IT is not a bad thing at all no matter what those other jerks say that tell you to stop.

No I disagree heavily. Tom's point is vary relivant and answers the original question acuratly. HAVING to take little steps in your run is a weakness...

wasabi: If? IF!!??? hahaha. I hear "evil" more than "intimidating."

crazylegs32 · Post by **crazylegs32** » 18 May 2006 21:25

Wasabi you must pay attention grasshopper! Nate was busting the staring ducking moves at funtasticks.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 18 May 2006 21:39

blurryben wrote:IT is not a bad thing at all no matter what those other jerks say that tell you to stop. There are always more than one way to do a trick. FOr example on the pdx mirage you can do it muted, which looks the coolest i think, or you can do it What i like to call "shuffle style". It is good to have both ways down on all of your tricks so you can always mix it up and have a little more style. Just make sure you learn all tricks both ways if possible. Just dont ever tap during ripwalks please!

I disagree - I think putting in extra plants is less efficent - meaning you're expending more energy on the moves than you need to. It's also slower - meaning you have to move faster later on - again meaning you're using more energy and also making the move harder for you than it actually is. The advantage is one of balance - if you plant more you have both feet on the ground more so you balance better - however if you want to advance your game more you'll need to be able to hit moves without extra plants - doing too many plants on moves will definitely make harder versions of those moves even harder. For example if you put an extra plant on your infinities then barfly will be considerably harder in my opinion