History of Footbag, or Lack Thereof

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History of Footbag, or Lack Thereof

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Footbag was invented in 1972 in Oregon City, Oregon, when John Stalberger met Mike Marshall, who had been kicking around a hand-made bean bag. (Wikipedia)

The same footbag tricks that are possible today, were possible 6000 years ago, when the ancient Mesopotamian civilization arose. It seems strange to me that it took us humans 6000+ years to discover what was possible with a 'bean' bag; hacky sack, and freestyle. Juggling (with hands) was discovered Very early (1947 A.D.) "The earliest known record of juggling, from the 15th Beni Hassan tomb of an unknown prince, shows female dancers and acrobats throwing balls. Juggling has also been recorded in most other early civilizations including China, India, Greece, Aztec (Mexico) and Polynesia."(Wikipedia)
Takraw came close, but is more like soccer than footbag.


Of course, facile and Lavers would not be possible without modern technology, but people could have definitely shredded with leather sandals, and some kind of footbag made of available materials.

What if people were shredding-it-up, even 400 years ago? Can you imagine Alexander the Great busting fearless strings in celebration of victorious battles, or ancient tribes dueling it out with shred-30 contests? I can't imagine where the sport would be today if it would've been discovered significantly earlier.

Why do you think it took humans so long to discover the possibilities, and where do you think the sport would be today if 'ancient' peoples were busting mobius > ripped warrior, hundreds, or thousands of years ago?
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I think you mean Footbag is closer to Takraw than Takraw is to soccer.

As far as why people werent busting huge tricks 2000 years ago is likely that they had to deal with everyday life as it was back then...

Who has time after waging a land war in asia to go out and practice being both sided ;)
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footbinc wrote: Who has time after waging a land war in asia to go out and practice being both sided ;)
ya. I agree to a certain extent... but what about royal jesters and entertainers like that? They juggled didn't they? Why no shred? It's not like there was a lack of professional athletes either. The fought in Gladiator rings, right? Why not shred in Gladiator rings too??

I'll bet there are ancient forms of footbag that we don't know about... One day sombody will discover something. Maybe me :twisted:

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People have been rhyming and creating beats for centuries, yet rap or hiphop is new to the last few decades. Same with stall/add based freestyle footbag.
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I wonder what cool activities and games that were created it the past have become lost in the sands of time. Sure footbag may be a new invention, but there has to be some equally fun games that have been played in the past that no one knows of anymore.
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shreddaily wrote:People have been rhyming and creating beats for centuries, yet rap or hiphop is new to the last few decades. Same with stall/add based freestyle footbag.
One of the earlier forms of rap was created by the Irish. There was a poem written about a trian that had the sound of a trian in the back. Like "chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga... etc" while the guys spits out his poem... I've never acctually heard it, but my cousin learned about it in University.

(sorry... a lil off topic :oops: )
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People in the past definitely had spare time; especially in the past few hundred years. Chess, backgammon, mahjong, and dominos are some old board games, and takraw is Extremely old. Cricket was first played about 1700 years ago, and croquet is fairly old as well (1800's).

I'm not sure why ancient peoples didn't think of kicking around a footbag, but I sure wish they would have. Maybe some lost civilization did footbag...
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Chinlone, Takraw and other regional variants played with a rattan ball have been played for a long time. I'm not entirely sure what moves they were busting out with a rattan ball hundreds of years ago but many of their moves today are very impressive.
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gangsta wrote: I'm not sure why ancient peoples didn't think of kicking around a footbag, but I sure wish they would have. Maybe some lost civilization did footbag...
I'm suuure that they did. It's just been underground and belittled by others for thaaat long... *sigh*
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gangsta wrote:Cricket was first played about 1700 years ago
I think cricket is about 700 years old, not 1700.

But I think definitely the concept of keeping an object off the ground using only your feet is a fairly universal concept.
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Jeremy wrote:I think cricket is about 700 years old, not 1700.
You're correct. My math isnt so good :wink:
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