2006 August Online Competitions - Official release

Post by **Zac Miley** » 11 Sep 2006 18:23

HenryG wrote:

PS dont give rankings unless you watch the video! (the impression i got from isilwar)

I watched the videos many many times.

What's wrong with my rankings?

bluntobj3ct · Post by **bluntobj3ct** » 11 Sep 2006 18:39

henry, you rock my man but...

you're going to nag people to stop discussing their own business (all of which pertains to the comp) and demand (and then spam) for people to rate the video (you)? bad enough, but you didnt even have the patience or decency to rate everyone in the comp, you stop at basically yourself.

come on dude, thats real lame

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i might post a ranking eventually but im going to watch the vids a couple more times, and im not going to leave people out. im already intimidated by the tremendous level of shred that presented itself in these comps

. like i said before, props to EVERYONE.

BalinorNZ · Post by **BalinorNZ** » 11 Sep 2006 18:43

Zac there's nothing wrong with your rankings

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HenryG wrote:Wow people. this thread isnt for idle chatter. Put up some rankings already!

Actually Henry, the 'idle chatter' you're talking about is called feedback, and I sepcifically asked for people to give it - why don't you give some?
The judges will give their rankings when they are ready, they have to think very hard about being fair to everyone.

I guess everyone has seen this already since I just got up about 12hours after it uploaded:

Open Sick Three is now online

HG · Post by HG » 11 Sep 2006 19:09

wut ever comps have changed a lot i guess. rankimgs used 2 be the main idea

shredzilla · Post by **shredzilla** » 11 Sep 2006 19:16

HenryG wrote:wut ever comps have changed a lot i guess. rankimgs used 2 be the main idea

Probably due to the growing popularity of modified and new people posting on it. I may take a stab at ranking tomorrow. Man I just gotta say watching Anz hit that combo was insane, and Kevin's combo was just ludicrous even if it was in socks. Makes me wanna skool eggbeaters real bad...

funklovesfootbag · Post by **funklovesfootbag** » 11 Sep 2006 21:37

A lot of those moves and combos from the open vids dropped my jaw. Sick. Thank you all for entering and organizing, I'll probably submit something next time.

mitko · Post by **mitko** » 11 Sep 2006 21:56

woohoo, that was nice

props on you all people : P

but...I'm sorry bout the criticism but I thing that Byrin Wylie's swiveling stuff was kinda 'the', I think he touches the bag with the symp swirling or maybe I'm wrong, maybe he just does it too fast.
Ansi is a KILLING MACHINE!!
hahah terraging dso, like toe2toe nemesis, sick Cheks!

footymatt · Post by **footymatt** » 12 Sep 2006 04:52

Oh I thought yall would think this is kinda funny...

I filmed my novice sick 3 during tropical storm Ernesto! That's why it's raining, I had to do it that day or i'd miss the deadline!!

FOOTBAG RULES!!!!

setman · Post by **setman** » 12 Sep 2006 10:21

downloading the sick3 video.

i will rank the sicks 3 how it has done at last polish tourney (by system)

qphox · Post by **qphox** » 12 Sep 2006 11:26

Open Big Trick:

1. Honza - Pixie Flurry
2. Phil - Pixie ss Atomic ss Mirage
3. Henry - Alpha Atomic Torque
4. Anssi - Your Mom
5. Mitko - In-Mobius

setman · Post by **setman** » 12 Sep 2006 12:25

sick 3

1. Kevin Regamy 9,45 points
2. Phil Morrison 9.05 p.
3. Anssi Sundberg 8.9 p.
4. Byrin Wylie 8.05 p.
5. Nic Bathgate 7.9 p.
6. Jamieson Hickingbotham 7.45 p
7. Joshua Munstermann 7.25 p.
8. Mitko Dimitrov 6.7 p.
9. Ben Rinowski 6.55 p.
10. Samuel McAulay 6.4 p.
11. Matt Coffman 6.25 p.
12. Gray Cnadwick 6.2 p.

EDIT: sorry Kevin, i don't know why i wrote wrong your surname.

BalinorNZ · Post by **BalinorNZ** » 12 Sep 2006 12:47

That is a very inetresting ranking Kamil. Would you care to explain how the point system works and is judged?

footymatt · Post by **footymatt** » 12 Sep 2006 15:55

one guess...

out of 10 points...

how he came up with the points to begin with... ?I don't know?

bluntobj3ct · Post by **bluntobj3ct** » 12 Sep 2006 18:50

wooo i <3 footbag

qphox · Post by **qphox** » 12 Sep 2006 21:52

By the way:

Regamey Regamey Regamey Regamey Regamey Regamey Regamey.

setman · Post by **setman** » 12 Sep 2006 22:39

The system isn't perfcet, but it helps judges.

i dunno if i can write but...

The system has been created by Kamil Wysocki (Kierpca) and the other guys bring on some of their ideas.

The system judge sick 3 in four elements: Cleanless, the difficulty of tricks, the difficulty of links, variety. and a sick gets points from these elements. After that i count final rate (Points of cleanless* 0,15 + Points of the difficulty of tricks*0,35 = the difficulty of links + variety*0,15)

For example:

Kevin Regamy:

Symp atomic DLO - pixie symp eggbeater - pixie ducking symp eggbeater

Cleanless: Usually most of people sicks get 4 points(done correct, the dexes are clean, the end is controlled)
4 points

Hardless of tricks: Fronstide predator is 6 adder so 6 points, pixie symposium eggbeater is hard five it gets 6 points too (normal five like phoenix gets 5 points). pixie ducking symp egbbeater is hard six so 7 points.
6+6+7 = 19 points

Hardless of links Frontside Predator > pixie symp eggbeater - one point because there is dex in set after the trick (dlo > pixie). pixie symp eggbeater > pixie ducking symp eggbeater - also one point (eggbeater > pixie)
2 points

variety When the two same dexes, or pdx are done at the same side the system doesn't count the 2nd one as a point.

symp (1) atomic (1) xdex(1) dlo (2) - pixie (1) symp (1) eggbeater (2) - pixie (0) ducking (1) symp (0) eggbeater (0)

19*0,35+4*0,15+2*0,35+10*0,15 = 6,65 + 1,5 +0,6 + 0,7 = 9,45 points !

qphox · Post by **qphox** » 13 Sep 2006 00:21

setman wrote:EDIT: sorry Kevin, i don't know why i wrote wrong your surname.

hah! No worries...

...except it's still wrong!

It's my own fault for not including my full name with my submission to Nic. But still, oh man, my name's been spelled wrong my entire life.

Denton from Wetaskiwin wrote:Regamey. It's easy. You make player's RE-think their GAMEY.

mitko · Post by **mitko** » 13 Sep 2006 00:55

setman wrote:The system isn't perfcet, but it helps judges.

i dunno if i can write but...

The system has been created by Kamil Wysocki (Kierpca) and the other guys bring on some of their ideas.

The system judge sick 3 in four elements: Cleanless, the difficulty of tricks, the difficulty of links, variety. and a sick gets points from these elements. After that i count final rate (Points of cleanless* 0,15 + Points of the difficulty of tricks*0,35 = the difficulty of links + variety*0,15)

For example:

Kevin Regamy:

Symp atomic DLO - pixie symp eggbeater - pixie ducking symp eggbeater

Cleanless: Usually most of people sicks get 4 points(done correct, the dexes are clean, the end is controlled)
4 points

Hardless of tricks: Fronstide predator is 6 adder so 6 points, pixie symposium eggbeater is hard five it gets 6 points too (normal five like phoenix gets 5 points). pixie ducking symp egbbeater is hard six so 7 points.
6+6+7 = 19 points

Hardless of links Frontside Predator > pixie symp eggbeater - one point because there is dex in set after the trick (dlo > pixie). pixie symp eggbeater > pixie ducking symp eggbeater - also one point (eggbeater > pixie)
2 points

variety When the two same dexes, or pdx are done at the same side the system doesn't count the 2nd one as a point.

symp (1) atomic (1) xdex(1) dlo (2) - pixie (1) symp (1) eggbeater (2) - pixie (0) ducking (1) symp (0) eggbeater (0)

19*0,35+4*0,15+2*0,35+10*0,15 = 6,65 + 1,5 +0,6 + 0,7 = 9,45 points !

hahah

nice Kamil, yesterday i was joking and i said that footbag is mathematics but now you really have proved it to me haha, that is sick bro

BalinorNZ · Post by **BalinorNZ** » 13 Sep 2006 02:12

Woah! Thank's for posting that Kamil! It could well aid the judges in their decisions

The only thing I can say is wrong with it, is it doesn't take into account 'coolness', like mitko's sick3 was maybe not as high adds as the others, but pogo pdx mirage > frontside toe blur > ss symp whirl is MEGA stylie! The links are super cool, the combo has a crazy look to it and it was obviously well thought out... that's gotta count for something

setman · Post by **setman** » 13 Sep 2006 04:06

Nic, i wrote that the system isn't perfct.

ok i'll write up others...

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Kevin Regamy

Symp atomic DLO - pixie symp eggbeater - pixie ducking symp eggbeater

Cleanless: Usually most of people sicks get 4 points(done correct, the dexes are clean, the end is controlled)
4 points

Hardless of tricks: Fronstide predator is 6 adder so 6 points, pixie symposium eggbeater is hard five it gets 6 points too (normal five like phoenix gets 5 points). pixie ducking symp egbbeater is hard six so 7 points.
6+6+7 = 19 points

Hardless of links Frontside Predator > pixie symp eggbeater - one point because there is dex in set after the trick (dlo > pixie). pixie symp eggbeater > pixie ducking symp eggbeater - also one point (eggbeater > pixie)
2 points

variety When the two same dexes, or pdx are done at the same side the system doesn't count the 2nd one as a point.

symp (1) atomic (1) xdex(1) dlo (2) - pixie (1) symp (1) eggbeater (2) - pixie (0) ducking (1) symp (0) eggbeater (0)

19*0,35+4*0,15+2*0,35+10*0,15 = 6,65 + 1,5 +0,6 + 0,7 = 9,45 points !
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2nd.Phil Morrison

Food processor > spinning whirl > blurry whirling swirl

Cleanless: 4 points

Hardless of tricks: 6+5+7(hard six adder) = 18 points

Hardless of links Food processor > spinning pdx whirl - two points. One because of spin after trick and an extra piont for spin after osis. (when you hit osis to spin/duck/dex you get an extra point); spinning pdx whirl > blurry whirling swirl - one point for set with dex after trick.

3 points

variety: stepping (1) pdx (1) whirling (1) spin (1) - spin (1) pdx (1) whirling (1) - stepping (0) pdx (0) whirling (0) swirling (1)

3*0,35+18*0,35+4*0,15+8*0,15 = 1,05+6,3+0,6+1,2 = 9.15 points!

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3rd.Anssi Sundberg

Fussion - Spanisfly - Mullet

Cleanless: 4 points

Hardless of tricks: 6-5-6 = 17 points

Hardless of links Fussion - Spanisfly (1 - because the after trick is duck) Spanisfly - Mullet (1)
2 points

variety: atomic (1) xdex (1) paradon (2) - ducking (1) barfly (2) - ducking (1) pdx (1) symposium (1) whirling (1)

2*0,35+17*0,35+4*0,15+11*0,15 = 0,7+5,95+0,6+1,65 = 8,9 points!

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4th. Byrin Wylie

Bedwetter - Reactor - symp torque

Cleanless: 4 points

Hardless of tricks: 6-5-6 = 17 points.

Hardless of links ]Bedwetter - Reactor (1) Reactor - symp torque (0) 1 point.

variety: stepping (1) pdx (1) eggbeater (2) - atomic (1) xdex (1) whirling (1) - symposium (1) miraging (1) spin (1) = 10 points

4*0,15+17*0,35+1*0,35+10*0,15=0,6+5,95+0,35+1,5 = 8.4 points !
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5th. Nic Bathgate

Fairy ducking butterfly - Ripwalk - Foodporcessor

Cleanless: 4 points

Hardless of tricks: 5-4-6

Hardless of linksFairy ducking butterfly - Ripwalk (1) Ripwalk - Foodporcessor (1)

variety: Fairy (1) ducking (1) butterflying (1) - stepping (1) butterflying (1) - stepping (1) pdx (1) whirling (1) spin (1)

4*0,15+15*0,35+2*0,35+9*0,15=0,6+5,25+0,7+1,35 = 7.9 points !
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More latter, cuz i don't have much time.