2006 August Online Competitions - Official release

dp · Post by dp » 25 Sep 2006 12:35

Sweet! First place!

Next time I'll be in open and get last probably...

sniper4life · Post by **sniper4life** » 25 Sep 2006 13:27

I know my tricks weren't that good, but I was just wondering why I did so bad? Maybe it can help me to improve for the next comp I enter.

Iron Clad Ben · Post by **Iron Clad Ben** » 25 Sep 2006 14:37

BenRea wrote:yesssss, 8th, nice stuff. good job everyone else.

How did his 1 footed combo beat mine?

Post by **Zac Miley** » 25 Sep 2006 14:40

I'd assume because far osis is harder than osis, and because osis into stuff is harder, but that's just me.

Not trying to be mean or anything.

Kyle Hewitt · Post by **Kyle Hewitt** » 25 Sep 2006 14:51

The only stuff I find hard out of osis is stepping stuff (which I can't even do) but that is on opinion

Post by **Zac Miley** » 25 Sep 2006 16:59

Yeah, but osis is much harder into things than osis from a butterfly.

Zeb Jackson · Post by **Zeb Jackson** » 25 Sep 2006 21:30

its all about practice really if you think about it, if you practice stepping out of whirls more than you practice spinning out of harder moves chances are that the whirl option is going to be better, i think it boils down to who looked more controlled? but other than that i agree with Nic

Aleksandr · Post by **Aleksandr** » 25 Sep 2006 21:58

Kyle Hewitt wrote:The only stuff I find hard out of osis is stepping stuff (which I can't even do) but that is on opinion

Nuclear?

Furious?

Blazing?

Zeb Jackson · Post by **Zeb Jackson** » 25 Sep 2006 22:03

i think maybe he was talking about the inter meds point of view, i dont think alot of the people in intermed...including myself are even thinking about blazing....let alone doing it out of osis

janis · Post by **janis** » 26 Sep 2006 01:32

Aleksandr wrote:
Kyle Hewitt wrote:The only stuff I find hard out of osis is stepping stuff (which I can't even do) but that is on opinion
Nuclear?

Furious?

Blazing?

dude this is the novice sick 3 we are talking about

BalinorNZ · Post by **BalinorNZ** » 26 Sep 2006 03:21

max wrote:Novice Sick 3:
1- Danny
2- Julien
3- Asmus
4- Kyle
5- Aleksei
6- Fred
7- Robert
8- Ben
9- Axel
10- Benjamin
11- Zac
12- Chris
13- Louis
14- Cody
15- Matt
16- Trey
17- Ron
18- Jared

Hmm there are a few placings here I don't agree with (just my opinion though). I think Chris should have placed a lot higher, pixie out of ducking mirage is HARD. I also thought Danny's combo, while stylie as hell, was not on the same level as Asmus, Chirs, Aleski and Julien.

shredzilla · Post by **shredzilla** » 26 Sep 2006 11:45

BalinorNZ wrote:Hmm there are a few placings here I don't agree with (just my opinion though). I think Chris should have placed a lot higher, pixie out of ducking mirage is HARD.

I went back and looked at my vid and I think the pixie was pretty thin, as well as the subsequent dive. It was a pretty hard combo, but I really don't think it was executed well enough. That's what these comps are good for though. Others noticing stuff you may have missed, and then cleaning up your game.

BenRea · Post by **BenRea** » 26 Sep 2006 12:41

how did

Diving clipper>paradox mirage> pixie legover

lose to

Walkover>toe delay>butterfly

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

xXLoss_of_ControlXx · Post by **xXLoss_of_ControlXx** » 26 Sep 2006 14:16

yeah, i got 5th in sick 1, 6th in sick3

BalinorNZ · Post by **BalinorNZ** » 26 Sep 2006 17:06

BenRea wrote:how did
Diving clipper>paradox mirage> pixie legover
lose to
Walkover>toe delay>butterfly

Yeah, that is pretty strange... I guess it was because the quality of the video was so bad that you couldent really see if the dexs were clean? I would have givin Ron the benifit of the doubt though!

Kyle Hewitt · Post by **Kyle Hewitt** » 26 Sep 2006 17:46

Aleksandr wrote:
Kyle Hewitt wrote:The only stuff I find hard out of osis is stepping stuff (which I can't even do) but that is on opinion
Nuclear?

Furious?

Blazing?

EDIT:Nevermind, I don't feel like starting a flamewar.

I only said that set because I can't do those 3 sets.

King Monkey · Post by **King Monkey** » 27 Sep 2006 03:38

Aleksandr wrote:fusion - considerably harder than food processor

No. Its not that hard.

This is both my opinion and an example of how stupid you sound trying to tell people what moves are hard and what moves arent. I cant even hit Food Processor but Fusion isnt that difficult. How do you tell me im somehow 'wrong'?

Aleksandr · Post by **Aleksandr** » 27 Sep 2006 03:49

If you can not tell which of moves are harder how can you judge which combo is best? I see food processor all the time in runs. I see clean fusion very rarely. Is this because people just like food processor as a better trick or do they find it more easy to fusion?

dude this is the novice sick 3 we are talking about

I am sorry. My English is not good. I can not understand when people say things they don't mean.

janis · Post by **janis** » 27 Sep 2006 03:59

no worries, yes we would expect to see Nuclear, Furious and Blazing sets out of osis in open category, but not in the novice category.

dyalander · Post by **dyalander** » 27 Sep 2006 17:46

If you can not tell which of moves are harder how can you judge which combo is best?

You can't tell which moves are precisely more difficult than others (is fusion more difficult than food processor? well that will depend on what concepts you find easy or difficult - ian finds double down moves easier then blender moves, this is not an empirical guage just a personal opinion based on personal experience, in cases where moves are quite close in difficulty this is all you have - I don't think either is "considerably" more difficult than the other, the difference is small. I think Ian would be able to hit food processor if he drilled blender as much as he drilled double downs). The key thing is that you cant give these small differences an accurate empirical value, BUT you will always have your opinion which will form the basis of your decision. With Sick 3 though this is spread over a number of elements. I think sick 3 judging is aided by the fact that you dont just have move creativity, difficulty and form to consider as in sick 1, but you also have link creativity, difficulty and form, as well as variety between moves. Personaly I think alot of weight needs to be placed on execution, link difficulty and creativity. I.e. if player 1 hits three easier moves than player 2 but player 1's links are both more difficult, all other things being equal I'd give it to player 1.
In the case of Phil and Anssi, I would have placed Phil above Anssi. Anssi may well have scored better on just move difficulty (at the very least you'd have to say to hit spanish fly that cleanly is very difficult), and the difference in form would have been marginal if there was any, both had good form. Anssi had marginally better variety than Phil. But both Phil's links are substantially more difficult, Anssi has no uptime dex after the first atomic. This is enough to push him just above Anssi over all in my mind.