Interactive Judging Sick Trick SJFF

[bustinjustin]

This is for the winner of SJFF and I'm putting the vote to you. I think after maybe 2 pages or so I'll post the names and who won.

Player 1
1. Matador

Player 2
1.Mullet
2.Blurry Torque

Player 3
1.Spinning Ducking Cross-Body Rake

Player 4
1.Pendulum Illusion
2.Pendulum Ducking Osis

Player 5
1.Spinning Ducking Pdx. Drifter
2.Symp. Mobius

Player 6
1.Voodoo
2.Tomahawk

Player 7
1.Blurry Reaper

Player 8
1.Blurry Blender
2.Spinning Blender
3.Marius
4.Blurry Torque
5.Spinning Ducking Whirl

Player 9
1.SuperDuperFly

Player 10
1.Dbl. Spinning Osis
2.Div. Spinning Osis

Many of the tricks I portrayed in long hand to avoid comments like what is void or lotus or big apple. Please just rank your top three players and the ONE move that you thought put them there. This should be fun! Thanks
Thanks c-fan it was confusing initially.
For example

1. Player 2 and 1 move
2. Player 9 and 1 move
3. Player 4 and 1 move

I'll then add the totals and post the winner. Is this clearer now?
I'd also like to comment that yes, in an "official" setting video would have to be present in this case I want it just based on moves.
thanks

[C-Fan]

Is there no video available? Without video, a lot of this is just theory fighter. For example, in the abstract I'd rank bigwalk ahead of spinning whirl, but that could change depending on how cleanly executed either trick was.

Also, in the past when I've run Sick Trick contests, I've instructed the judges to only consider the best single trick that any player hit. So if a player hits 5 tricks in 6 attempts, that's great, but we should only consider their best trick, since the name of the contest is "Sick Trick," and not "most consistent player."

With Justin's list, I recommend people do the same, and pick the best trick any given player hit, and consider it on its own.

[Jeremy]

Ken makes good points.

Also I think it's inaccurate to judge people rather than moves. You should rank the moves. This is noticeable in a situation such as:

person 1 hits: blurry torque, whirlwind

person 2 hits: spinning pdx drifter.

judge a. ranks them blurry torque, spinning pdx drifter, whirlwind

judge b. ranks them whirlwind, spinning pdx drifter, blurry torque

judge c. ranks them spinning pdx drifer, blurry torque, whirlwind.

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Now if we give a rank point score to each move and add them and say lowest wins we get:

1. spinning pdx drifter (5)
2. blurry torque (6)
3. whirlwind (7)

However if instead we rank them based on person we get:

1. Person 1 (4)
2. Person 2 (5)

So if you can follow that, you can see that it is important to rank each move separately, rather than judges individually deciding which move they think is the best and giving the person a score based on that move.

[Outsider]

C-Fan said:

Also, in the past when I've run Sick Trick contests, I've instructed the judges to only consider the best single trick that any player hit. So if a player hits 5 tricks in 6 attempts, that's great, but we should only consider their best trick, since the name of the contest is "Sick Trick," and not "most consistent player."

I understand where Ken is coming from. Its a very reasonable point of view. None-the-less, I want to offer an alternative to that point of view. I was thinking to myself about instructing judges on the exact opposite at the next tournament I host. That is, I think consistency should count in any public performance, because a player who hits five out of five attemps puts on a much better overall show for the fans than a player who hits 1 out of five attempts. From an audience-friendly point of view rather than a technical point of view, five out of five completed tricks is alot better than a bunch of almosts and drops with only one finished trick to show for it. We, as a sport, can look like idiots for granting first place to the guy who dropped almost every time. I personally feel a little embarrased when I present our best competitors to an audience and the best we have to offer that audience is four out of five, or even five out of five incomplete tricks. I am in favor of encouraging consistency. Players will be penalized for attempting sick tricks or big combos that they can barely hit (as evidenced by their needing five trys just to hit it once)

To get back on topic, I like:

Player 5, Move 1 (spinning ducking pdx drifter)
Player 8, Move 3 (marius)
Player 10, Move 1 (double spinning osis)

As an event coordinator, or a judge who was not specifically asked to ignore consistency, I would be STRONGLY in favor of declaring player 8 the winner, though. From my theoretical audience-friendly point of view, he obviouly put on a MUCH stronger show than any other competitor that day. Which individual trick was the very best is debateable and a matter of opinion. What is not subjective and debateable is the fact that player 8 hit between 2.5 and 5 times as many good tricks as all his other competitors. I'm eager to find out who it was that hit five out of five good tricks for sick one, and as for the other players, well, whatever (hey, guys, nothing personal).

(maybe its already really obvious to alot of you who it was that hit five out of five sick tricks, but I haven't really been paying much attention to who was at the SJFF, so please excuse my profound ignorance).

[sampotter]

Following the judging guidelines:

Player 7
1.Blurry Reaper
Player 10
2.Div. Spinning Osis
Player 5
1.Spinning Ducking Pdx. Drifter

However I felt that the player who hit five 6's should be ranked highest for the same reasons as Jon.

[max]

1. Player 5 spinning ducking pdx drifter
2. Player 10 diving spinning osis
3. Player 7 blurry reaper

[Jorden]

1. Player 5: spinning ducking pdx drifter
2. Player 10: diving spinning osis
3. Player 9: superduperfly

Video of trick executions please.

[bustinjustin]

This thread doesn't seem to be receiving any more hits so here's the players and ranks so far.

1.Dustin Rhodes
2.Ben Skaggs
3.Daryl Genz
4.Evan Lovely
5.Byrin Wylie
6.Luis Monhollon
7.Stephan Seigert
8.Dylan Fry
9.Evan Gatesman
10.Lon Smith

Ranked so far
1.Byrin Wylie
2.Lon Smith
3.Stephan Seigert
4.Dylan Fry
5.Evan Gatesman

I hope no one minds my 2 cents. I think superduperfly is way harder than anything else hit, especially spinning ducking pdx. drifter. But that is just me! which is why this way of judging is rad, because it allows for everyones opinion. Thanks everyone.