New Moves

t_Arquino · Post by **t_Arquino** » 07 Dec 2006 17:29

G.Y.B.A.S.
Pdx blender

ObArA'BaRs · Post by **ObArA'BaRs** » 07 Dec 2006 18:23

footjam_heger wrote:gyro torquescrew

hackeysnacker · Post by **hackeysnacker** » 07 Dec 2006 20:07

spinning ducking clip
symposium tripwalk
quantum same butter > string bs

footjam_heger · Post by **footjam_heger** » 07 Dec 2006 23:22

ObArA'BaRs wrote:
footjam_heger wrote:gyro torquescrew

t_Arquino · Post by **t_Arquino** » 08 Dec 2006 13:20

Pdx Tap
Food Procesor

Slowsis · Post by **Slowsis** » 09 Dec 2006 05:03

Last three posts get the Greenwood Seal of Approval.

Is the symp tripwalk frontside? I'd just assume, but that makes an ass of U and ME.

Post by **Zac Miley** » 09 Dec 2006 09:31

Pixie Symp Rev Whirl (2nd 5)

zeroman13 · Post by **zeroman13** » 09 Dec 2006 12:56

Phasing Osis

hackeysnacker · Post by **hackeysnacker** » 09 Dec 2006 13:00

yeah the tripwalk is frontside, no such thing as a symp butter

BenRea · Post by **BenRea** » 09 Dec 2006 18:47

ummm, yes there is.

Zeb Jackson · Post by **Zeb Jackson** » 09 Dec 2006 18:59

no, because butterfly doesnt get a symposium add, i had this issus with my first online comp but it was set straight.

most people would call it "symple" i think where as it seems symposium but its not

mc · Post by mc » 09 Dec 2006 23:20

Butterfly doesn't get symposium add because it's too easy, not because it's not symposium. It's a little idiosyncracy of the add system.

I don't know how anyone could argue that a symposium butterfly isn't symposium. it definitely fits the definition.

Outsider · Post by **Outsider** » 10 Dec 2006 09:43

Matt Cross wrote:Butterfly doesn't get symposium add because it's too easy, not because it's not symposium. It's a little idiosyncracy of the add system.

I never paid alot of attention that this particular debate but I thought the decision had something to do with full dexes versus half dexes, something like butterfly and clipper set mirage don't get symposium ADDs because they are only half-dexes, or something like that.

(edit: I meant Symposium Stepping set, not necessarily a clipper-set downtime symposium mirage. I'm not certain what the status of that trick is, but as Matt Cross pointed out to me, I also don't see why that clip-set near symp. mirage shouldn't get a symp ADD if its downtime. Whatever. Anyway, like I was saying, symposium stepping set is a one-ADD set, with no symposium ADD, just one for the dex)

I thought it kind of made enough sense when expressed that way. Like, the paradox mirage in blur is a full dex, so you can have a backside symposium blur, but the first mirage, the clip-set one, has much less actual dex to it, so there is no frontside symposium blur (who here remembers pogo? ) anymore.

I think the amount of dex in a butterfly is pretty equivalent to the amount of dex in a clipper-set mirage, and so there was at least some parity in those rulings. Whatever. Like I said, I didn't pay real close attention to those issues, since I was never messing around with those moves anyway. Matt is essentially correct, though. People seemed to just basically decide that symp. butterfly was too easy to deserve to be a four, just the same way they felt that pogo tricks were similarly over-rated in terms of ADDs.

Its actually a beautiful example of the freestyle community restraining itself a little, since I always felt that most of us were all too eager to pat ourselves on the back by inflating the ADD values of the moves we were hitting, like by inventing the X-Dex ADD (a similar example: spinning used to specifically negate paradox [by the rules, a spinning move could not also have an ADD for a paradox component], but a sort of community consensus eventually decided that a move could be both spinning AND paradox, and we should award ourselves another ADD for the extra difficulty involved in moves that were both spinning and paradox). I guess I was annoyed by examples of ADD inflation, but forgetting that it sometimes goes the other way too.

Anyway, I would say that THERE IS a symposium butterfly. It just doesn't get an ADD for being symposium, and THERE IS a frontside Blur, but it also doesn't get an ADD for being symposium either.

ObArA'BaRs · Post by **ObArA'BaRs** » 10 Dec 2006 18:55

whirr
almost reverse whirr

hackeysnacker · Post by **hackeysnacker** » 10 Dec 2006 19:06

spikehammer

t_Arquino · Post by **t_Arquino** » 11 Dec 2006 05:17

Mullet

Beastie Bee · Post by **Beastie Bee** » 11 Dec 2006 11:41

Blender (5 times,all session)

far osis bsos

clip set ducking butterfly bsos !

clip set diving butterfly bs

diving>ducking>ducking

flip stepping ducking

clip set ducking barfly

RIPWARRIOR

slapdash21 · Post by **slapdash21** » 11 Dec 2006 15:41

food ending planted
spinning blender

Double blender

mc · Post by mc » 11 Dec 2006 16:48

double blender and spinning blender?! sick bowler!

Beastie Bee · Post by **Beastie Bee** » 13 Dec 2006 11:00

blender>toe ss butterfly>dyno

diving butterfy>ducking butterly

Almost Whirr (1 kick and 2 or 3 lost...)

PHOENIX BS

(I THINK SOON HIT BSOS) my new 7 5add