Sand vs Pellet Bags (32p)

Cornell · Post by **Cornell** » 01 Jul 2007 19:42

Well, I hate to make a new topic, but I've already searched and couldn't really find an answer. Could someone give me some pros and cons of a 32p pellet, and a sand. I want someone that's good for stalling (sand is basically the obvious answer), but I also was wondering if a broken in pellet bag would be just as good, or possibly better. And which would be better for tricks such as ATW, and Mirage?

LEGOMAN · Post by **LEGOMAN** » 01 Jul 2007 21:33

Pellet. No contest.

Sand ones are harder to break in due to them leaking very fast due to bleed holes.

With those type of moves I would look at the Stitchers Contact List and buy one from them.

Cornell · Post by **Cornell** » 01 Jul 2007 21:52

Thank you, LEGOMAN for your reply. Does anyone else have any opinions, answers, or knowledge from experience?

PegLegHolly · Post by **PegLegHolly** » 01 Jul 2007 22:26

if youre just doing mirages/legovers/clippers/atws then all you really need is a sandbag. when you get to harder tricks, most people use "pellet" bags... but some people stay with sandbags forever. you just gotta find what you personally like... because everyone likes something different.

LEGOMAN · Post by **LEGOMAN** » 01 Jul 2007 23:07

I think Holly is right there. When I first started to play I had a dirtbag but then I went to 32s. I don't know if that effected my shred in anyway but I've never really been a big fan of sand.

What I'm really trying to say is for more bang for your buck get a Mr.sandbag from freedomfootbags.com (if you want a sand bag.)

Cornell · Post by **Cornell** » 02 Jul 2007 07:18

Well since I already have a Dirtbag, it would be wiser to try the pellet filled one and see which I like better, right?

sen · Post by **sen** » 02 Jul 2007 08:33

I think for a begginner you should try the mr. sandbag. it is so much better than the dirtbag (I used both). The Mr stalls like a dream. The problem with a pellet 32 is that they can take a long time to break in. I would suggest, if you have the funds, to pick up a 32p pellet bag AND a Mr. Sandbag. Use the sandbag now, but start breaking the 32 in so that is ready when you get to that stage. It's important to be able to use both types later on.

HG · Post by HG » 02 Jul 2007 08:51

Again, Mr Sandbags actually aren't that stallable, and i think even an unbroken in 32 panel pellet bag is more stallable than a broken in mr sandbag. They are too slidey and slick.

Frank_Sinatra · Post by **Frank_Sinatra** » 02 Jul 2007 13:17

Some points that haven't been made:

32s set a lot more consistently.

If you're already gonna buy a 32, then dropping an extra $7 or whatever on a Mr. Sandman might not be a bad idea.

The 4 panel is less of a financial loss if you rip it open.

Post by **Zac Miley** » 02 Jul 2007 18:40

HG wrote:Again, Mr Sandbags actually aren't that stallable, and i think even an unbroken in 32 panel pellet bag is more stallable than a broken in mr sandbag. They are too slidey and slick.

And facile ones are worse.

Get a 32.

Cornell · Post by **Cornell** » 02 Jul 2007 18:43

Thank you all for your input, I've just bought a 32p Kanga (ha I know, not the best, but there's a store near my area that sells footbags), pellet filled. It's good I guess, but I've been trying to break it in for a while now...

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 02 Jul 2007 19:12

Starting out, Mr. Sandbags are all that you really need. It'll get you going on the basic fundamentals for footbag freestyle. Only when you want to concentrate on harder tricks and links (especially those that predominately involve clippers) would you want a bag that is heavier and that it sets well. That's where 32 panels come into the picture.

Kanga bags are good, but every marketed footbag/hacky sack sold in public are always filled with only plastic pellets, and made to be large for general play. You can always fill and replace the bag with a heavier fill like copper BBs and steel shot, but the best place to invest your buck is in people who know how bags are made and performed - the players themselves.

I recommend Richard Abshire if you plan on buying your first professionally made 32. He's dependable and a great player and stitcher. I'm satisfieed with all of my purchases from his 32s. Or you can check the stitcher's contact list, or PM me. I'm a stitcher and player, but I mostly do a lot of private orders with my home club here in NYC.

However, first and foremost, Mr. Sandbags are key to starting out at your own pace. Hope this helps.

Frank_Sinatra · Post by **Frank_Sinatra** » 03 Jul 2007 05:36

Cornell wrote:Thank you all for your input, I've just bought a 32p Kanga (ha I know, not the best, but there's a store near my area that sells footbags), pellet filled. It's good I guess, but I've been trying to break it in for a while now...

Oh man, I didn't realize this is what you meant by 'pellet filled'. This is probably worse than either the Sandman or the 32s that Wasabi just wrote about. A friend of mine once bought an Adidas "kicking sack" that was kinda like this - it was not freestyle-able. If that even counts as a word.

lotus · Post by **lotus** » 03 Jul 2007 05:53

more important than having the perfect bag is keeping it joyous and finding the inner desire to play hard and improve

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i certainly ain't the phattest freestyler goin' around ... but i performed/busked my way around australia for five years with a 50mm/34 gram 32-panel poly pellet footbag. honestly guys, the tricks that cornell is hitting, this size/weight bag will be fine for him for now. if he ends up pushing his way up to two/three dex moves, then yes, he will need to line up a smaller/heavier ball bearing filled bag ... but let the guy find his style before you give him a bag and enrol him in worlds

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Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 03 Jul 2007 19:21

The Adidas "kicking sack" has shredded shoes/rubber soles used as the filler for the bag. Not an ideal filler, nor ideal for freestyle, but it's stallable. Kind of big for a bag, but I've seen (and played) with bigger bags.

Just do you with what you have. The options are open to you, but it's you that has to make the effort in some way or form if you want to improve. Having the best equipment at your hand is just one option in excelling.

Blue_turnip · Post by **Blue_turnip** » 03 Jul 2007 20:08

Wasabi wrote:The Adidas "kicking sack" has shredded shoes/rubber soles used as the filler for the bag. Not an ideal filler, nor ideal for freestyle, but it's stallable. Kind of big for a bag, but I've seen (and played) with bigger bags.

Just do you with what you have. The options are open to you, but it's you that has to make the effort in some way or form if you want to improve. Having the best equipment at your hand is just one option in excelling.

I really don't like the mr sandbag tbh. I find it harder to stall than my 32s. i liked the dirtbag more

Cornell · Post by **Cornell** » 03 Jul 2007 20:48

Yeah, right now I still prefer my DirtBag. It's easier to stall (maybe just because the 32 isn't broken in yet), and I just hit my first couple of Mirages today with that baby.

PS. Does anyone have any tips on how to break in a bag faster, besides just kicking it. Or do you suggest certain ways of massaging it.

Blue_turnip · Post by **Blue_turnip** » 04 Jul 2007 00:47

http://modified.in/footbag/viewtopic.php?t=2760 - break in tips