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2.5 hour shred/training session. Really focused on improving my form, style, balance, and consistency. Tweaked some things that helped my game.

Highlight(s):
Nemesis (felt clean, 2nd try)
blurry whirl > blur > legbeater > rpt > 30 contact run to end the session.

Working on: EVERYTHING. A lot of stepping stuff, because my sets aren't at the same place every time and I get tired quickly when doing them. Anyone else like this? Evan isn't so he can't sympathize. :lol:

I'm trying to keep my difficulty level down in my runs so I can get longer runs. I noticed every trick I dropped in the SoCali vid and it was surprising. I dropped on nemesis, pixie dolomite, ripped warrior, whirlwind, and ducking pdx torque (oh and gyro clip in rippin' :oops: ). I mean, what the heck was I thinking? I'm not ready to throw those down in runs.

I figured out that I get bored and tired in my runs so I try something ridiculous just to see if I can get it. So, from now on I'm trying to stay in the 3's and 4's range.
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professor wrote:
Working on: EVERYTHING. A lot of stepping stuff, because my sets aren't at the same place every time and I get tired quickly when doing them. Anyone else like this? Evan isn't so he can't sympathize. :lol:
i know exactly what you mean/feel. it feels like when ever i drill ripwalks or some simple stepping stuff like 10-15 contacts into it and im tired, or my legs feel beat, I think we should learn how to step lightly :P
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Dude your level of suck isn't as bad as my level of suck :) But glad to see you're working and really dude, don't be so hard on yourself.

See you guys at US Opens.

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Just watched the SoCal video, and for me the highlight was your shred. I expected Evan's stuff to be good, but I really wasn't prepared to see how good you've become. I really like your style, it's very smooth, bothsided, and powerful. Big props to you. I look forward to playing with you in the future.

PS-Any tips on furious? It looks so easy for you.
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2 hour shred/training session. Worked on certain aspects of my game. Tried to play with ease. Fixed (hopefully) some errors in my game. It's really just a work in progress.

Highlight(s):
Stuff.

Working on: Everything.

I'm gonna go stretch now.
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Stuff. What kind of trick is that?

Phasing Gyro Backside Nemesis? You hit it before Vasek and named it stuff you cheeky bastard you!

Or was it that other trick....

Anyways you and Evan ever thinking of coming up here to kick with the Stanford guys?
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1.5 hour shred/training session today. Played very well. Hit some long runs and some hard tricks.

Highlight(s):
leviathan, tomahawk b2b, and mullet bsos in one run first try (dropped on footed marius :twisted: )
multiple 30 contact runs

My ankle is sore, but I'm gonna ice it and it should be good.


As a thank you to my blog reader(s), I'm gonna give you a full edition video of last night's shred. It has about twice as much shred as the video I posted in the video section has. They're the better runs too. It's not much of a thank you, but I hope you enjoy anyways.

http://footbag.org/gallery/show/13783

Tips would be greatly appreciated.
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you sneaky, sneaky person ;)

i like how your trying to keep your back more straight up instead of leaning forward a little like you used to, I dont think I could give you any critiques on your shred, your style is starting to look better :)
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I just watched the video section video, and then came to your blog to comment on it, what a wonderful surprise it was to find a longer version :)

Thoughts: I couldn't find anything I disliked. Whirls, drifters, swirls, double downs, spinning all looked solid to me.

As for toe stuff, I enjoyed the fairy->atomic->pixie->quantum beginning to a run, alot. I was trying to look at how high you set stuff, for personal verification, and it is hard to see how high the bag is with your black shirt on. One thing I did notice with your atomic a couple of times, is that it looks like your calf could be tucked in a little more. However, the energy wasted by letting it dangle could in fact be less than tucking it in. Who am I to judge.

I also don't know why you are "self concious" about your blenders. They looked fine to me :) Of course, you live with them, so you should know them better than I do.

As for "style" improvement, it has. I enjoyed watching you play at worlds and nyj, but now I really think you've gotten more confident and consistant with everything. I think the best style is when players know exactly where the footbag will be, and they command it. You are well on that path it seems.

Thanks for putting out the video,
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2.5 hour shred session with Evan. He played pretty good, I played ok.

I didn't have contacts in so I was shredding blind, which sucked. I don't think my form was as good as the last couple sessions. Oh well.
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Like Jay7, I watched in vids section, but wanted to come here to post. I really thought your game was nice to watch in this latest vid. Your concentration on how you look (vs. what you hit) is paying off in my opinion. You look 'professional' in terms of body control and bag control. And your tricks look very clean and a nice selection. I think, keep doing what you're doing, and you will really continue to improve leaps and bounds (though I'd give my left arm just to be where you're at already! :-) )
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1.5 hour training session. 80% toe to toe tricks. Which I suck at. It's horrendous really. I can hit a 30 contact run easier than I can hit 10 toe-toe tricks in a row.

Highlight(s):
pdx drift > ddd > pdx drift > barfly > rpt


Working on toes.

When I do a bunch of toe tricks my form goes down the drain for some reason. It always seems like I'm late on the tricks or the set is off. I'm always rushing. It bugs me so much! Ahhhhh!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :x :x
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It's 74 degrees F here today. Perfect shred weather. How's the weather where you live?
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26 degrees, mostly cloudy.
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professor wrote:
Working on toes.

When I do a bunch of toe tricks my form goes down the drain for some reason. It always seems like I'm late on the tricks or the set is off. I'm always rushing. It bugs me so much!
I'm exactly the same way with clippers. It seems like we have opposite strengths that complement each other. I propose that we fuse together and form a super toe clipper player.

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Yes! Our powers combined!

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Except instead of Captain Planet, Vasek will emerge from a cloud of pot smoke and shred our faces off.
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2 hour training today. Worked on form, toes, consistency, etc.
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2 hour session last night. Was frustrated most of the session, but managed some pretty good runs.

I've been thinking a lot (what's new? :lol: ) about why certain people in footbag progress faster and get better than others (eg. Vasek, Dave, Jorden, etc.). So, I'm gonna do sort of a brain dump about the thoughts I've had.

1. It's just natural. They are made better for footbag. Whether that means physically, mentally, or both. If this is the case, then the rest of us have little hope. So, basically I'm gonna ignore this one, because I want to believe I can get good, so even if it's false hope, I'll take it.

2. They trained their butts off. This is obviously true about everyone who is good. But the question is, why do they get better faster? Is it the way they train? Is it that their bodies can handle footbag better, so they can train more often at the highest level? Is it the frequency of their training? Is it what they did before footbag that helped them develop the muscles needed for footbag? (Soccer, etc.) If this is the case, then soccer would be the desired cross-training for footbag. Is it that they built the perfect footbag foundation of tricks? Basically, besides practice, what do all the best players have in common that contribute(d) to their skill?


I've been thinking of different ways of footbag training. Because if footbag greatness is not just natural, then the way you train is vitally important. The only problem I have, is discovering which is best.

1. Frequency?: How often should one train? Muscles take 2 full days to repair. So, should you train one day for as long as possible then rest for two days? Maybe, but it seems that a person needs to train almost daily to maintain the consistency desired in footbag. So, maybe the best way to train would be to play everyday until you start to notice tiredness(word?) or your form slipping. So, basically between 1 and 2 hours every day. This way your muscles don't break down as much and don't require as much time to repair. But 1 hour never seems like enough time to work all the concepts needed to have a varied and wide selection of tricks.

Maybe it's a mix of both. Maybe a good training schedule would be a 2 hour training session. One day off for repair. A light 1 hour maximum session, working weak parts of your game or working 1 - 2 desired elements. Or, maybe a schedule of training two days straight at 1.5 hours a session and then a day off.

2. How should you train?: Should you just drill tricks as much as possible. That's how you get good at kicks, so why not other tricks? Should you just do themed runs? (Eg. whirls, pixies, etc) This way you increase run length and variety while working concepts. Do you do drills as much as possible? It works links, string length, and endurance. Or do you do a mix of them all? I've thought of a method that might work, but I haven't tried it out yet. I think a good way to train would be to do as long and varied a run as possible and whatever trick you drop, you drill that trick in all it's forms. Which means repeating the trick as much as possible and coming up with drills that link that trick to other tricks and vice versa. Also, work the lower level elements of that trick if it has any. Then of course repeat.

Also, I think video taping yourself might be a big key to progress. I know Dave and Jorden film a lot of their sessions. You should tape especially if you don't have a person better than you to play with. Even if you do play with someone better, I think seeing the problem yourself will help you fix it better, because you know how your body moves and functions better than anyone else. The difficulty is identifying the problems.

Another thing I think might increase progression while training is watching footbag videos of the best players WHILE you train. Seeing someone play and then playing immediately after seems like it would increase your chances of performing tricks with the correct form the first time. It makes the most sense to pick the players who have the closest body type as your own to watch. For example I probably wouldn't watch Vasek play while I shred. Even though he does everything with perfect form, I can't replicate the way he does things because my body is not built the same way.


The reason I've been thinking these things is that I train hard pretty often and it doesn't seem like I'm progressing as fast as I should. I know, I know, "People progress at their own rate!". But, screw that. I want to progress faster than my "own rate". I can only think of 4 possibilities of why I'm not progressing as fast as I want.

1. I'm not built for footbag. So, I have to train harder/better to get the same results as others. Or worse, I'm not physically able to train as hard as others.
2. I don't train enough. I train A LOT, but maybe it's still not enough.
3. I train too much. Maybe I'm not giving my body enough time to recover between sessions.
4. I'm training incorrectly. Or I have a really bad foundation.

Last question. Is it possible for someone to reach their skill limit in footbag no matter how hard they train? Disregarding age. I don't think I have, but do you think it's possible?
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1.5 hour session. Played well. Working on form.
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