Upper Level Trick Tips Video Idea - please read and vote

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Would you purchase the proposed video?

Yes
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No
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Total votes: 44

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Upper Level Trick Tips Video Idea - please read and vote

Post by david »

After the fairly good response to my clipper tutorial (585 views) and drifter tutorial (394) I have come to think perhaps a video detailing more upper level moves might be a good thing to create. It would probably be called "My Favorite 5's" and be about an hour long and go through about 10 of my favorite 5's with detailed instruction and tips on the subtleties I would recommend to any player seeking advice.

The only downside of these videos is that they take a decent amount of time to create, seeing as I have to analyze what exactly I do for the tricks, then film, and then edit. For this reason I am asking:

Would you pay $10 for an upper level trick tips video about an hour in length? It would be a download in high quality similar to the downloads players like Penske and Digges have offered recently.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated. I would also love to hear tricks people would like tips on. I feel that I am a pretty good teacher and am proficient with many of the upper level moves.

Thanks!

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Moved to General Footbag from Trick Tips (October 13, 2010) -- inactivity makes it irrelevant in this sub forum -Erik
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Post by C-Fan »

I personally probably wouldn't buy it, but I'm also an old fogie who's been playing 11 years and is on the cusp of retirement. Ask me 5 years ago and I'm in.

That said, if somebody asked me what are 10 five-add moves I'd want to learn from you, they would be:

1. Janiwalker/furious in general
2. Spinning whirl
3. Double spinning clipper
4. Spinning ducking
5. Symp flurry
6. Stepping out of osis (not really a trick)
7. Whirlwalk
8. Symp whirling swirl
9. Superfly.
10. Can you do surging?
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Post by Jazzkid »

Yeah Id be in
10 tricks 10 bucks is well worth it!

Ever since your tips when we shred in New Orleans,
- i can bust 15-20 ripwalks in a row pretty consistently
- I now have ripped warrior in my shred
- my playing is slower and more controlled
- my tripless is way more consistent

Dude, good luck with the video. 8)
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Post by Jazzkid »

oh yeah ... please consider
1 ripped warrior
2 double blender
3 scorpion's tail
4 mobius
5 Fog
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Post by Wasabi »

Yeah, I would chip in $10 for this.

1. Scorpion's Tail
2. Atomic double over down
3. Bedwetter
4. Barroque
5. Tomahawk

Would this be on DVD?
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Post by gatapia »

I'd definatelly buy it. I'd recommend
- Downtime Torques (pdx, spinning, ducking, etc)
- Downtime Blender (pdx, spinning, ducking, etc)
- Downtime DOD
- Barraging / Furious
- Stepping Ducking

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Post by Asmus »

I would definitely consider it.

But it would depend on what tricks it included. I would like to see:

Osis > Step
Double Spinning
Spinning Ducking
Uptime double dex (furious/barraging)
Downtime double dex (also symp.)

These could start with any uptime concept or downtime concept.

I have no interest in learning whirl moves.

But also you can't make everybody happy and I'm sure it would include some of these.

Thanks for giving back David. You rock!
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Post by jay7 »

Hey Dave, I would truly appreciate one of these videos, enough to pay you whatever you asked.

The ten tricks / concepts that I would like to see you analyze are....

1. Furious Anything.
2. Spinning whirl
3. Double Spinning clipper
4. Whirr.
5. The "flurry" barraging set. Seen in flurry, symp flurry, or bs clownface.
6. Mobius
7. Symposium Eggbeater
8. Paradox Blenders. Specifically how you schmelt your leg over it.
9. Superfly.
10. DLO something, either ducking or spinning.
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Post by jon »

I might buy it. I would prefer more free video on basic concepts/moves.
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Post by CautionFragile »

I would definitely buy it. But I'm with Jon on the free basic concepts. Like as a promotion for your video maybe.
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Post by PoisonTaffy »

With the amount of people who voted yes, you already made a cool theoretical 100$. Are you going to go for it?
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Post by david »

Work will begin on the DVD soon hopefully. We are recovering from the open, but should have a camera in hand later this week.

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Post by Najeh »

hey man just so you know im kinda new to the scene (long time hacker first time footbagger) and that clipper tutorial was the greatest ever, really. especially since i went to go on vacation (in germany right now) shortly after i met all these footbaggers from pgh so i have noone to help me learn good form and shit. i just studied that vid and did the drills u recommended and its been only a few days but im already doing lots of consecutive clippers. i think if u have the time u should make a video for as many moves as u can, beginner or advanced because the clipper/drifter vids u made are waaaayyyy better than any other footbag tutorials on the web. yeah just so you know that ur vids are much appreciated
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Post by Ian Brill »

Hey Dave,

Your advice is always gold. While I do not want to diverge from the topic, I have twenty put aside in case you ever feel like expanding on more intermediate level moves. It would also increase your potential for sales volume.

That said, I have ten bucks put aside for this video. My understanding is that if you put ten-twenty minutes aside for any upper-level trick, then by default a quantity of the intermediate knowledge will be addressed in the process.

Great idea!
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Post by bdams19 »

i concur, i would probably look into an intermediate moves before anything higher but then again i am not at the level you are targeting here
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Post by CIC flurry »

good idea for vid, david
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Post by shredzilla »

Without reading this entire page, here's some that I would die for tutorials of:

1. PS Whirl, Whirlygig
2. Stepping Ducking
3. Mobius, Vortex
4. Blurry Whirl, Fog, etc.
5. Far Swirl, Butterswirl, etc.

I've hit a few of those, but no where near consistent on any of them, and would love to have a real tutorial for them with stuff like spotting the bag on mobius, etc.
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Post by jeffmudd6 »

Hey Dave,

I think the video is a good idea... however I wouldn't buy it. I'm not on the level in which advice on five add tricks would really help me. I'm still drilling 3's and 4's. If you were to create a video or series of videos for more intermediate tricks I would surely look into that.

Perhaps even a video revolving around general concepts would also be more helpful to everyone? Many people in this topic have been suggesting that you teach "furious anything" or "mobius/vortex." I think that focusing on the big picture is much more effective than analyzing tricks on a case-by-case basis.

You could certainly include:

Stepping, pixie, atomic, quantum, ducking, spinning, and gyro.

Going into some intermediate tricks like DLO, torque, drifter, and whirls could make their 5-add variations much easier to understand for intermediate players such as myself, and even some advanced players who struggle with certain concepts.

I love the idea of you teaching through videos and I don't mean to be too critical, but I don't think a tutorial for 10 5-add moves would be too helpful to very many people.

Jeff Mudd

P.S. I might buy the video just to watch you hit some sweet five adds. :-)
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Post by Anexthesis »

Not certain if I'll be buying this or not, 4's and 5's are what I'm working on so it would be a pretty good primer for some harder tricks, even though I tend to just figure these things out on my own. Anyway my list for 10 fives I'd like to see are:
1. Vortex
2. Mobius
3. PS Egg
4. PS DLO (or just symp dlo despite it's unfortunate 4add status)
5. Superfly (this trick might sell the vid for me as I don't get it at all...)
6. Paradox whirling swirl/Symp whirling swirl
7. Double Spinning anything or general tips.
8. Aeon Flux
9. Torquescrew
10. Voodoo (or more basic merlin tips)
11*. For shits and giggles I'd also really like to hear some tips on Twirl.
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Post by Lopes18 »

I would purchase this.

1) Blurriest
2) Mobius
3) PS Whirl
4) Pixie Ducking >
5) Ducking Double Downs
6) Superfly
7) Spinning Ducking tricks

Cheers,
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