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PegLegHolly
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its sort of like the confederate flag in the states originally stood for southern pride, but eventually became racist due to the actions of the confederates. the american flag might seem to symbolize terrorism and oppression around the world because thats what we have done (to an extent). while the american flag might symbolize such actions, obama symbolizes change and hope. america seems to change its mind a lot, similar to changing its flag a lot.
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BainbridgeShred
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It's not only Obama, it's that the Western world still takes its broader cultural cues from America while also talking out the side of their mouths about our policies. I'm not saying this is the ultimate evil on the worlds part that they disagree with us; but one of the greatest betrayal's in history is how America has done the business defense for all of Western civilization while other country's have focused on sociliazing their domestic fronts, only now to turn on us. Our huge military industrial complex (I think that's the first time I've used that term, props to me) has certainly played a part in the continuation of this a self-destroying foriegn policy of ours too.Well it's interesting that they hate the US with such passion, but like Obama, who is now the leader of the US. It seems a bit contradictory.
Anyone who thinks the American military is equatable to terrorists (Or Nazi's, or Crusader's, or Roman's or anyone else who could be brought up) in a historical sense is well, completely silly. I have no problem with Australian's hating our foriegn policies, because I do too broadly, but it's the exageration and betrayal that worries me.
I think you're completely wrong about " America has done the business defense for all of Western civilization."
When you look at the conflicts America has entered into without the support of the rest of Western civilisation, I think it's not clear at all that those conflicts had any serious benefit for the rest of the world. I'd love to hear what conflicts you're talking about. Certainly America has made very significant contributions to things like World War II, but the rest of Western civilisation was clearly already heavily involved in trying to defend itself before the US became involved, rather than focusing on "sociliazing their domestic fronts."
When you look at the conflicts America has entered into without the support of the rest of Western civilisation, I think it's not clear at all that those conflicts had any serious benefit for the rest of the world. I'd love to hear what conflicts you're talking about. Certainly America has made very significant contributions to things like World War II, but the rest of Western civilisation was clearly already heavily involved in trying to defend itself before the US became involved, rather than focusing on "sociliazing their domestic fronts."