Subject says it all.
Who has experience doing this? what materials have worked? Any technique tips?
I need to replace toe and inside surface on both shoes, as the material that was underneath the snake-looking leather on my lavers is super super thin and tearing already!
I need tips on replacing a surface on my Lavers.
I need tips on replacing a surface on my Lavers.
BRICK!
rfa::never give up::
nyfa
rfa::never give up::
nyfa
You could use-- T shirt material- nice and soft, but must be have close
stiches, because it is not as durable as the next. ( I think this is what Richard Abshire uses to mod new shoes, so Im sure if its done right, then it would be fine.
---Use jersey shorts material--has small holes and is breathable. Also, very durable. ( double layer )
---you could use facile fabric.
tips--- sew it, dont glue fabric to fabric, because it will get hard around the area that you have attached it to and will be hard to fix when you do it again
ps- I think this is what you are talking about, --- i will check back and give a better post when I get off of work later.
stiches, because it is not as durable as the next. ( I think this is what Richard Abshire uses to mod new shoes, so Im sure if its done right, then it would be fine.
---Use jersey shorts material--has small holes and is breathable. Also, very durable. ( double layer )
---you could use facile fabric.
tips--- sew it, dont glue fabric to fabric, because it will get hard around the area that you have attached it to and will be hard to fix when you do it again
ps- I think this is what you are talking about, --- i will check back and give a better post when I get off of work later.
that shiny fabric I use to make bags is AWESOME for this...
thin as a t-shirt and strong as facile
I have an inside modded from a pair of lavers that I dont use, i'll post pics later today.
thin as a t-shirt and strong as facile
I have an inside modded from a pair of lavers that I dont use, i'll post pics later today.
brian "bear" sherrill
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or on occasion (also for fabrics) thru modified
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I know the Lavers you are talking about Matt. Bummer. 
Considering the condition of those shoes, they are unmodded and any fixes for shoes underneath the surfaces that are unmodded will be tough (the toe especially). At least with the insides you can make do with a fabric patch-up.
With a needle and thread (black thread preferred), you can patch some microsuede on the entire inside, but focus on the areas that are tearing and be sure to bond those areas tightly. Work in several sections on the inside, but leave the area where the inside meets the sole for a stronger thread (for this area in particular, because it's hidden away from the exterior of the shoe, I would use floss). Use a strong glue as an adhesive for insurance; not krazy or super glue but something with some rubbery elasticity. Caulk might work, but I'm not sure if it helps to bond surfaces.
The toe, I don't know. If you have pics, I might be able to help. What I can say is that repairs will be significantly easier if you cut away the stitches that hold the flaps down. Also, ask for Zachary Forth for some help on this as well, since he's had experience on tearing shoes apart and making them [semi] new again. He might have some advice for repairs.
Considering the condition of those shoes, they are unmodded and any fixes for shoes underneath the surfaces that are unmodded will be tough (the toe especially). At least with the insides you can make do with a fabric patch-up.
With a needle and thread (black thread preferred), you can patch some microsuede on the entire inside, but focus on the areas that are tearing and be sure to bond those areas tightly. Work in several sections on the inside, but leave the area where the inside meets the sole for a stronger thread (for this area in particular, because it's hidden away from the exterior of the shoe, I would use floss). Use a strong glue as an adhesive for insurance; not krazy or super glue but something with some rubbery elasticity. Caulk might work, but I'm not sure if it helps to bond surfaces.
The toe, I don't know. If you have pics, I might be able to help. What I can say is that repairs will be significantly easier if you cut away the stitches that hold the flaps down. Also, ask for Zachary Forth for some help on this as well, since he's had experience on tearing shoes apart and making them [semi] new again. He might have some advice for repairs.
Waylon Lew - maker of Wasabi bags
NYFA represent.
"Footbag can be pretty frustrating when it's supposed to be fun. I was partly driven by this forum - practice, practice, practice... As that is true, I think someone can be too focused on progressing and training that they miss the fun aspect of it." - Bander87
NYFA represent.
"Footbag can be pretty frustrating when it's supposed to be fun. I was partly driven by this forum - practice, practice, practice... As that is true, I think someone can be too focused on progressing and training that they miss the fun aspect of it." - Bander87
Yo, i have done this before with facile and didn't get the results I wanted really. Some thoughts:
-i think facile is a pretty good material to use.
-it's really hard to get the new material to sit right. if it's too tight the bag tends to bounce off, and if there's too deep a pocket it gets caught. the only tip i have to stop this from happening is to make the template as exact as possible, and make sure you have a good inch of extra material to work with on every side.
-i think facile is a pretty good material to use.
-it's really hard to get the new material to sit right. if it's too tight the bag tends to bounce off, and if there's too deep a pocket it gets caught. the only tip i have to stop this from happening is to make the template as exact as possible, and make sure you have a good inch of extra material to work with on every side.
The toe spot is really hard to modify... and i have no tips for it
for the inside, I actually used a exacto knife and cut out the whole inside along the edge (leaving a little sliver on the bottom edge).
then i traced the piece I cut out onto the microsuede. Cut a little outside of the tracing line and sew on the line you traced (or just like a millimeter out of the line) I was very happy with my clipper mod, but the toe on that shoe SUCKED, and i still am waiting to re-do it.
ALSO, if you have tape that works well to patch footbags, you could tape a bunch of rows on the underside (and or top) of the toe and it will last long.
If you would like some more microsuede for this job, just pm me and we can work it out (i have more microsuedes than before, just check my for sale page)... i also have some snakeskin microsuede that MIGHT work.
for the inside, I actually used a exacto knife and cut out the whole inside along the edge (leaving a little sliver on the bottom edge).
then i traced the piece I cut out onto the microsuede. Cut a little outside of the tracing line and sew on the line you traced (or just like a millimeter out of the line) I was very happy with my clipper mod, but the toe on that shoe SUCKED, and i still am waiting to re-do it.
ALSO, if you have tape that works well to patch footbags, you could tape a bunch of rows on the underside (and or top) of the toe and it will last long.
If you would like some more microsuede for this job, just pm me and we can work it out (i have more microsuedes than before, just check my for sale page)... i also have some snakeskin microsuede that MIGHT work.
brian "bear" sherrill
buy my footbags
via freedom footbags
or on occasion (also for fabrics) thru modified
buy my footbags
via freedom footbags
or on occasion (also for fabrics) thru modified
There's really no escaping the huge gap that runs from the clipper surface to the sole, really, so my best advice for that is a ton of fabric glue or silicon caulk. What Nate said about using an extra amount of material is advised so that you can calculate how much you need to make a comfortable fit. But that is in regards to actually modding the shoe to make it shreddable. I think in Matt's case he wants to repair the Lavers that he usually walks in, and from what I can tell they are unmodded.
Back on the topic of surface mods, I remember repairing a pair of modded G-units for both John Mahood and (I think) Chris Dean, and I have done a fair amount of toe surface mods back in the day. I repaired one shoe for Ken Somolinos, but it was for the clipper surface. Anyway, modding the toe IS tough, but not impossible, and it is certainly possible to do it clean. What's tough is reinforcing the stitches so that they're "backstitched" like Freedom Mr. Sandbags, so the job looks clean and won't fall/ripple apart like you would usually see with a very loosely sewn footbag. A semi-thick, sharp Glover's and Carpet needle is highly advised, and fingers of steel if you have them.
For me, a great repair would take me about 5-6 hours per shoe. Four hours for the toe, and I guess 2 or more for the clipper.
Back on the topic of surface mods, I remember repairing a pair of modded G-units for both John Mahood and (I think) Chris Dean, and I have done a fair amount of toe surface mods back in the day. I repaired one shoe for Ken Somolinos, but it was for the clipper surface. Anyway, modding the toe IS tough, but not impossible, and it is certainly possible to do it clean. What's tough is reinforcing the stitches so that they're "backstitched" like Freedom Mr. Sandbags, so the job looks clean and won't fall/ripple apart like you would usually see with a very loosely sewn footbag. A semi-thick, sharp Glover's and Carpet needle is highly advised, and fingers of steel if you have them.
For me, a great repair would take me about 5-6 hours per shoe. Four hours for the toe, and I guess 2 or more for the clipper.
Waylon Lew - maker of Wasabi bags
NYFA represent.
"Footbag can be pretty frustrating when it's supposed to be fun. I was partly driven by this forum - practice, practice, practice... As that is true, I think someone can be too focused on progressing and training that they miss the fun aspect of it." - Bander87
NYFA represent.
"Footbag can be pretty frustrating when it's supposed to be fun. I was partly driven by this forum - practice, practice, practice... As that is true, I think someone can be too focused on progressing and training that they miss the fun aspect of it." - Bander87
i've just read this thread, and was wondering how your shoes turned out...?
If you haven't tried to fix it yet, i would really advise you to glue it and stitch it.
you should do really small stitches on textiles for a job like this (also in general) to gain the most durability. if you glue it too it will last for a long long while, best to use would be spray mount (spray mount does not turn out as stiff as casual glue)
and brians idea to use microfiber sounds good as well, cause its really strong but thin at the same time.
good luck
michael
If you haven't tried to fix it yet, i would really advise you to glue it and stitch it.
you should do really small stitches on textiles for a job like this (also in general) to gain the most durability. if you glue it too it will last for a long long while, best to use would be spray mount (spray mount does not turn out as stiff as casual glue)
and brians idea to use microfiber sounds good as well, cause its really strong but thin at the same time.
good luck
michael
Michael L.