i looked atyour video twice because i noticed smething at the end of it so i wanted to be sure that you are doing it everytime ... and in fact you aredoing it everytime ... you forgot the very first advice of this topic "you had fit rom Jay" you are on your heal, look at the 21rst second ... thats so obvious, you arent throwing the bag but you make your clipper motion and you lose your balance ...
when you are stepping back to do you clipper/butterfly on the other side, your heal is landing first.
work on that first ... thats one of the beginning tips... get balanced on your toes FIRST !!!
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damn...
balance, toes, balance, toes... Ok lets keep going..
I notice it a Lot.. just from the hand set too its so obvious each time
balance, toes, balance, toes... Ok lets keep going..
I notice it a Lot.. just from the hand set too its so obvious each time
Cory Allen
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I feel that, in order to give good advice about basic moves, I need to see more on the actual base concepts, namely clipper, mirage, illusion, pickup, and legover. I do not advise training upper level basic moves before you have a good grip on the base concepts (ex. ducking and osis before you can stick a clipper really well, doing drifter while your mirages and clippers aren't really solid, etc.) The reason for this, and I'm speaking only from personal experience, is that one day your perception of a base concept will change, and then you will have to relearn all of the moves associated with the concept that you have remastered. To me it makes more sense to learn all of the base concepts as well as you can, and then to build up from that foundation.
In my opinion, if you can stick a stall and then link out of it, you have demonstrated more control over the concept as opposed to doing a bunch of the same moves with poor form.
I would like to see you doing more legover/pickup and mirage/illusion so that I can give more positive feedback for the upper level basic tricks. Expanding on what Jay and others have said, balance is crucial. When you land wrong on your feet, your calves and quads have to compensate, and in turn your lower and upper back have to adjust, and that leads to misplaced balance and a certain level of inconsistency with whatever trick you are preforming. When you have a softness to your landing, and solid footing, it makes stalling easier due to the lack of an abrupt stop, and combined with good balance, will allow you to have better control over stalls.
Also, I believe that doing 100 knee bumps a day will help you improve any dex moves for two reasons:
1) Training your muscle memory to lift your leg that high will give you more control over the timing of dex moves
2) After a many attempts you will notice that you are kind of marching, and need to keep your balance further back, and your core muscles tighter. This will help because it trains your posture for dex moves. I find that my balance is stronger and my back is straighter afterward.
I might also suggest you look into buying the Vasek book that Dan Ednie made, or at least reading the article on breathing at:
http://www.fourkast.com/magazine/articl ... uggestions
Keep on keepin' on mate
In my opinion, if you can stick a stall and then link out of it, you have demonstrated more control over the concept as opposed to doing a bunch of the same moves with poor form.
I would like to see you doing more legover/pickup and mirage/illusion so that I can give more positive feedback for the upper level basic tricks. Expanding on what Jay and others have said, balance is crucial. When you land wrong on your feet, your calves and quads have to compensate, and in turn your lower and upper back have to adjust, and that leads to misplaced balance and a certain level of inconsistency with whatever trick you are preforming. When you have a softness to your landing, and solid footing, it makes stalling easier due to the lack of an abrupt stop, and combined with good balance, will allow you to have better control over stalls.
Also, I believe that doing 100 knee bumps a day will help you improve any dex moves for two reasons:
1) Training your muscle memory to lift your leg that high will give you more control over the timing of dex moves
2) After a many attempts you will notice that you are kind of marching, and need to keep your balance further back, and your core muscles tighter. This will help because it trains your posture for dex moves. I find that my balance is stronger and my back is straighter afterward.
I might also suggest you look into buying the Vasek book that Dan Ednie made, or at least reading the article on breathing at:
http://www.fourkast.com/magazine/articl ... uggestions
Keep on keepin' on mate
Nick Landes
Proudly Representing Fourkast Footbag Co.
http://www.fourkast.com
Portland Blog
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Mastery is the combination of knowledge and practical experience
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sry for the late response.. ill make a vid of the basics soon.. i am just reallllly busy.. =(
Cory Allen
My Footblog
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Apparently i really need to work on left to stalls.. i'm pretty sure thats the problem with me catching it with my left foot.
However; Here ya go!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tqVdhBCT1Q[/youtube]
Also, i already bought the Vasek Klouda manual; I'm still reading it lmao.. just at the part titled, "How to play". I read probably 40-50 pages?? and i had already read your breathing suggestions before-- somehow i found it on forkast.. i watch your video's pretty often. You have so many newer ones.. I like the Aleksi Airinen (Nov 19).. that was sick.. =D.. the last run.. wow.
Anyways... what you guys got for me this time?
However; Here ya go!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tqVdhBCT1Q[/youtube]
Also, i already bought the Vasek Klouda manual; I'm still reading it lmao.. just at the part titled, "How to play". I read probably 40-50 pages?? and i had already read your breathing suggestions before-- somehow i found it on forkast.. i watch your video's pretty often. You have so many newer ones.. I like the Aleksi Airinen (Nov 19).. that was sick.. =D.. the last run.. wow.
Anyways... what you guys got for me this time?
Cory Allen
My Footblog
My Footblog
hey buddy, nice progress.
you know those hops you do into clippers? you need to do those into your toe and inside stalls as well. You're doing them well on mirages, illusions, and pickups, but not legover, so get the hops on those, too.
I like how clean your illusion dexes are. they're right between the ankle and the middle of the shin, and the set height was good too.
Also, yes, work your left toe stalls. Do sameside toe stall > op side toe stall > repeat, all with hops. Clippers looked good, keep up the bothsided work.
you know those hops you do into clippers? you need to do those into your toe and inside stalls as well. You're doing them well on mirages, illusions, and pickups, but not legover, so get the hops on those, too.
I like how clean your illusion dexes are. they're right between the ankle and the middle of the shin, and the set height was good too.
Also, yes, work your left toe stalls. Do sameside toe stall > op side toe stall > repeat, all with hops. Clippers looked good, keep up the bothsided work.
BRICK!
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I Originally PM'd this response, but decided to post it as it may help others:
Sorry it took so long for me to respond, I wanted to make sure the advice that I gave you was clear, accurate, and most of all beneficial. So I decided to watch the video about 7 or 8 times and I took notes on certain things I noticed. Here is some feedback, with positives and things to work on:
=General=
*Keep your balance more centered. It looks like you sometimes compensate your balance with one side more than the other, which will create uneven movements between sides, and cause tricks to look and feel different on different sides.
*Set the bag close to your body, but stall at a natural distance. I see that you do that on your strong side most of the time, but flip side sets tend to go off further, which makes you have to compensate and then have less balance.
*Stick your stalls. Some people don't do it as much as I do, which is fine, but I feel that if you slow down the stalls a little more, you gain more control over each move. Just remember that it's not a race, and also remember to breath
*Use your whole body to set the bag, not just the foot or leg that is doing the set. The way to accomplish this is to bend you support leg a little when you stall (I think you already do that to some extent) and then push off with the support leg when you set (part of the hop motion that everyone keeps talking about). I find that when I do the whole body set that I get cleaner sets that are straighter and they take less effort because it's more evenly distributed
*If you really want to get good, practice:
100 clippers back to back
100 contacts of mirage - pickup - repeat
100 contacts of illusion - legover - repeat
Do this every day (with a chain mail bag if you can). When you are doing these drills focus on making a perfectly soft and graceful landing, not making the bag spin as much as possible, and not having the bag make a sound when it hits your foot (which is really hard with a chain mail bag)
=Clipper=
+You have good rhythm when you do them from one side to the other, which means that you're hopping well and repositioning your body over them effectively.
*Make sure you turn your shoulders towards the bag, or "open up your shoulders" when you are doing clippers. This will allow you to see the bag better, and to keep your balance
=Mirage=
+You have great dex height, your knees come up to about 90 degrees, and you have good timing with the stall (both of these things are exemplified on your strong side)
+Good hops with strong, and the flip is still okay, but it looks natural for you to do that kind of hop, which will help you master other tricks in the future.
*Keep your feet close together when you land the stall. I see that you did that very well on your strong side, but the flip looks a little spaced out.
*On your flip, make sure the set is coming up high enough, and that you have enough time to plant and then start the dex. The hop will help you time it right, and if you make sure that the bag is almost done descending when you stall it, then I feel it would be more controlled.
=Legover=
+It looks like you have good set height on this
*As Matt said, the hop on this move is vital. I would suggest, in order to get the right timing, that you time the hop when the bag is starting to descend, and that you move your leg down as you finish the dex. If you use your support leg for the set hop, and then switch feet as you lift your knee to start the dex, and then hop again as you dex, you can find the perfect rhythm for this move
=Illusion=
+Great dex placement! This is something that I struggled with for a while, and I would consider this point the hardest to learn about illusion, so good job
* Same deal as mirage, keep your feet closer together when you finish the stall, it will help you maintain your center of balance.
* The timing for this move is also tough, and I feel that you have it almost down. The only thing I could suggest is to try and feel out for yourself the different timing that for the hop and dex dropping that exists between illusion/mirage and pickup/legover
*Make sure that you spot the bag near the inside of your knee when the bag peaks. This will help with stall and dex placement.
=Pickup=
+Great speed and accuracy of the dexs. I believe, and some may not agree, that a great pickup is a gateway to a great whirl. I can give you some more similarities in another message if you would like because it takes too long to relate all the moves of the foundation level to the basic downtime tricks that I listed in the topic
*For this one, I would suggest spotting on the outside of the knee as opposed to legover and the inside of the knee.
*As with legover, timing the hop so that you fall into the stall jsut as the bag hits your foot will help with overall control.
I hope this helps, and keep up the good work. You have a lot of potential, and it's easier to realize the fullness of it when you master the foundation first
Sorry it took so long for me to respond, I wanted to make sure the advice that I gave you was clear, accurate, and most of all beneficial. So I decided to watch the video about 7 or 8 times and I took notes on certain things I noticed. Here is some feedback, with positives and things to work on:
=General=
*Keep your balance more centered. It looks like you sometimes compensate your balance with one side more than the other, which will create uneven movements between sides, and cause tricks to look and feel different on different sides.
*Set the bag close to your body, but stall at a natural distance. I see that you do that on your strong side most of the time, but flip side sets tend to go off further, which makes you have to compensate and then have less balance.
*Stick your stalls. Some people don't do it as much as I do, which is fine, but I feel that if you slow down the stalls a little more, you gain more control over each move. Just remember that it's not a race, and also remember to breath
*Use your whole body to set the bag, not just the foot or leg that is doing the set. The way to accomplish this is to bend you support leg a little when you stall (I think you already do that to some extent) and then push off with the support leg when you set (part of the hop motion that everyone keeps talking about). I find that when I do the whole body set that I get cleaner sets that are straighter and they take less effort because it's more evenly distributed
*If you really want to get good, practice:
100 clippers back to back
100 contacts of mirage - pickup - repeat
100 contacts of illusion - legover - repeat
Do this every day (with a chain mail bag if you can). When you are doing these drills focus on making a perfectly soft and graceful landing, not making the bag spin as much as possible, and not having the bag make a sound when it hits your foot (which is really hard with a chain mail bag)
=Clipper=
+You have good rhythm when you do them from one side to the other, which means that you're hopping well and repositioning your body over them effectively.
*Make sure you turn your shoulders towards the bag, or "open up your shoulders" when you are doing clippers. This will allow you to see the bag better, and to keep your balance
=Mirage=
+You have great dex height, your knees come up to about 90 degrees, and you have good timing with the stall (both of these things are exemplified on your strong side)
+Good hops with strong, and the flip is still okay, but it looks natural for you to do that kind of hop, which will help you master other tricks in the future.
*Keep your feet close together when you land the stall. I see that you did that very well on your strong side, but the flip looks a little spaced out.
*On your flip, make sure the set is coming up high enough, and that you have enough time to plant and then start the dex. The hop will help you time it right, and if you make sure that the bag is almost done descending when you stall it, then I feel it would be more controlled.
=Legover=
+It looks like you have good set height on this
*As Matt said, the hop on this move is vital. I would suggest, in order to get the right timing, that you time the hop when the bag is starting to descend, and that you move your leg down as you finish the dex. If you use your support leg for the set hop, and then switch feet as you lift your knee to start the dex, and then hop again as you dex, you can find the perfect rhythm for this move
=Illusion=
+Great dex placement! This is something that I struggled with for a while, and I would consider this point the hardest to learn about illusion, so good job
* Same deal as mirage, keep your feet closer together when you finish the stall, it will help you maintain your center of balance.
* The timing for this move is also tough, and I feel that you have it almost down. The only thing I could suggest is to try and feel out for yourself the different timing that for the hop and dex dropping that exists between illusion/mirage and pickup/legover
*Make sure that you spot the bag near the inside of your knee when the bag peaks. This will help with stall and dex placement.
=Pickup=
+Great speed and accuracy of the dexs. I believe, and some may not agree, that a great pickup is a gateway to a great whirl. I can give you some more similarities in another message if you would like because it takes too long to relate all the moves of the foundation level to the basic downtime tricks that I listed in the topic
*For this one, I would suggest spotting on the outside of the knee as opposed to legover and the inside of the knee.
*As with legover, timing the hop so that you fall into the stall jsut as the bag hits your foot will help with overall control.
I hope this helps, and keep up the good work. You have a lot of potential, and it's easier to realize the fullness of it when you master the foundation first
Nick Landes
Proudly Representing Fourkast Footbag Co.
http://www.fourkast.com
Portland Blog
All the ladies love Matt Cross because Johnny Depp + Footbag = Matt Cross
Mastery is the combination of knowledge and practical experience
Proudly Representing Fourkast Footbag Co.
http://www.fourkast.com
Portland Blog
All the ladies love Matt Cross because Johnny Depp + Footbag = Matt Cross
Mastery is the combination of knowledge and practical experience