Toe Stall

Brad_R · Post by **Brad_R** » 29 May 2008 13:36

This is the toe stall section, so I'll post my question here. I've been playing for seven years and I'm not happy with my progress. i think I need to look at my toe stalls. How should I position my feet? Should my feet be heel to toe even, and also right next to one another almost touching if I set one foot down. I find it hard to do toe stalls like this. A post above said that you should make a 90 degree angle with your knee when you release the bag. if this is the case then one foot should be further ahead from the other. Please help!!!

Benzilla · Post by **Benzilla** » 29 May 2008 14:05

yes, post your toe stall questions here.

Your setting foot should be infront of your support leg.
You should have your knee get about 90-ish degrees when releasing the bag.

You should have a...can't think of the word...stance? that you resort back to after a trick. And by that i mean you should plant both feet, in a comfortable distance from each other. My feet are about 8 inches away from each other, but depending on the trick i just finished and the next oncoming trick, this distance can vary, i hope this makes sense.

thedudeman · Post by **thedudeman** » 20 Jun 2010 18:25

my flip toe is literally retarded, i can do all the tricks i can do on it but it doesnt feel comfortable doing them at all
today i was trying to stand on my right leg and just stare at my flip toe while i do atw's and regular toe stalls, are there any good drills to strengthen it?

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Matt K · Post by **Matt K** » 20 Jun 2010 18:55

Figure out what makes your strong toe feel better. If it's purely strength (ie your form is exactly the same), just do a lot of toe stalls.

If your form turns out to be different, make your flip toe exactly the same as your strong. Once you do that, do your normal toe stall practice, but put all of your concentration on doing your flip toe the same way every time.

F[uns]tylin' Eclectic · Post by **F[uns]tylin' Eclectic** » 21 Jun 2010 05:46

Along with that, try incorporating some drills like:

rtw> opp legover> mirage> repeat

say you started the sequence with right foot rtw, when it's on that last mirage, your next rtw should be with the left foot, and so on. This drill will whip up your weak toe in no time, and it will let you flow from toe trick to toe trick more easily.

You can also make up your own 3 trick sequence and try this.

MOST IMPORTANTLY: if you drop in mid-trick, be sure to pick up on the trick you dropped on.

Good luck!

thedudeman · Post by **thedudeman** » 21 Jun 2010 10:48

thanks, ill deffinitely drill this before session tomorrow
ive also been doing toe flicks, which seems to help a little, and leaning over and keeping my eyes parallel to the bag helps as well

F[uns]tylin' Eclectic · Post by **F[uns]tylin' Eclectic** » 21 Jun 2010 11:29

Cool man, let me know what you think of it.

And with regard to toe flicks, a friend of mine used to set his flipside with toe flicks and a higher ranking player we often kick with encouraged him to stay away from toe flicks as a set, because as you get better at freestyle, it's going to be harder to hit bigger tricks later in your years. Set your toe sets with almost a backwards bicycling motion, that's your best bet, just try to avoid toe flicks as a comfortable set for you. Hope I saved you from some difficulties in the future!

thedudeman · Post by **thedudeman** » 21 Jun 2010 16:17

its really tiring to drill this i cant drill it well at all, cant even finish one complete cycle, guess im gunna have to work my ass off

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 21 Jun 2010 16:22

alternating toe stalls... do them quickly

wish I could find the video of vasek doing them

thedudeman · Post by **thedudeman** » 21 Jun 2010 17:00

i know how to do those, mini toe stalls

Zeb Jackson · Post by **Zeb Jackson** » 21 Jun 2010 17:21

toe >ss toe stall

do it in different styles as well so do
- regular toe stall > ss regular toe stall x 10
- muted toe stall> ss muted toe stall x 10
- symple toe stall> ss symple toe stall x 10

also do these with other sides as well.

make sure your setting it straight, your posture is upright, and your bringing your knee up and not out.

thedudeman · Post by **thedudeman** » 21 Jun 2010 19:23

wow the ss toe stalls are quite a work out, im sure in a week thatll help, i think doing drills wouldnt really help the comfortableness of the left toe stalls but instead make me better at those tricks specifically

thanks for the help
its irritating that im moving onto whirls and dynos and i didnt notice that my flip toe isnt the best, should i continually work on my toes? or just in these first few months

Zeb Jackson · Post by **Zeb Jackson** » 22 Jun 2010 07:25

ive been playing for 4 years, and i still warm up with toe stalls, insides, and clippers before i play. Its always good to drill the basics

F[uns]tylin' Eclectic · Post by **F[uns]tylin' Eclectic** » 25 Jun 2010 18:37

Dude, I know, it's not an easy sequence to memorize and hit... AT FIRST. Break my suggested drill down into their own little parts and I found it also helps to verbally recite what trick you're about to do. I suggest about 30 minutes of these. In about a week of doing these every day, you'll notice that it becomes a lot easier. During that first week, as well, you'll start to notice WAAAAYYY more improvement in your game and you'll notice yourself having A LOT less trouble with that belligerent flipside toe. Lemme know how that goes if you decide to drill this one. Good luck bud.

mc · Post by mc » 26 Jun 2010 08:57

also, a good mindset to have about the question you posed might be this:

you drill your flip toe the same as you drill your strong toe. That way, it's not so much a flip toe any more.

There is no secret to it. you simply have put in more time on one toe than the other because it's easier for your mind (maybe because you're used to hand dominance, or maybe it has to do with which eye is dominant; it's hard to say why).

So, basically, the question you posed implied that you know how to drill the strong toe, but you don't know how to drill the flip toe.

To that, I would say, "if you know how to drill your strong toe, you know how to drill your flip toe. so, you already know the answer".

hope that helps your perspective on the flipside situation!

drillbit · Post by **drillbit** » 07 Jul 2010 16:11

i think the trick here is repetition...
a simple matter of numbers.....what you are weak at you drill, and drill, and drill some more.
Nothing but repetition in and of itself will make one a better player.

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Toe Stall

what are good ways to drill your flip toe?