whats the hardest set?

Senor Grommet · Post by **Senor Grommet** » 18 Jan 2004 02:43

What is the hardest set that is consistently hit by at least one shredder in the freestyle game?

calex · Post by **calex** » 18 Jan 2004 06:22

I know what most are with the exception of juantomic. What is that?

kaos · Post by **kaos** » 18 Jan 2004 10:25

Wontomic : Toe Symposium DLO set. Also called "Juantomic" after it's inventor.

Gotten from the Flipsider Knowledge Section

ted · Post by **ted** » 18 Jan 2004 10:56

Seeing as I can only do a few of these, I am in no position to judge the difficulty of these sets.

However, I find warped to be pretty impressive and rifling *sounds* hard.

Posi-Cole · Post by **Posi-Cole** » 18 Jan 2004 11:02

kaos wrote:
Wontomic : Toe Symposium DLO set. Also called "Juantomic" after it's inventor.
Gotten from the Flipsider Knowledge Section

Holy crap ... What kind of stuff is hit from this set?

I would really love to see something hit on video from a Juanatomic set.
Is there any videos of it?

Matt · Post by **Matt** » 18 Jan 2004 18:06

bubbbba

david · Post by **david** » 18 Jan 2004 18:09

fairy swirling = phasing i beleive, that seems pretty hard.

i also think that shattering is very hard, well i mean, it would seem hard. rooted sets like hyper and rootred fairy would be hard too.

wolfpac444 · Post by **wolfpac444** » 18 Jan 2004 19:16

Fairy swirling isn't that difficult -- I've hit fairy swirling clipper and fairy swirling near butterfly.

calex · Post by **calex** » 18 Jan 2004 21:08

kaos wrote:
Wontomic : Toe Symposium DLO set. Also called "Juantomic" after it's inventor.
Gotten from the Flipsider Knowledge Section

Haha. I should have known that. I have seen Wontomic in person.

sacktreter · Post by **sacktreter** » 20 Jan 2004 06:39

twinspinning, stepping quasi, fairy atomic

i think all have been hit ... and are damn difficult.

Chris Holden · Post by **Chris Holden** » 20 Jan 2004 09:08

Just clear it up
Stepping Paradox Miraging = Sliding (red invented that one)

Quasi is paradox miraging done downtime (ie pdx drifter = quasi clipper)

reply to post below: yes, totally

ted · Post by **ted** » 20 Jan 2004 11:23

Chris Holden wrote:Just clear it up
Stepping Paradox Miraging = Sliding (red invented that one)

Quasi is paradox miraging done downtime (ie pdx drifter = quasi clipper)

I'm pretty sure quasi has been used to describe a pdx miraging set- like sliding without the step.

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 20 Jan 2004 18:48

downtime isnt a set. the only SET in pdx drifter is the clipper.

backside frantic would be crazy...(ie: pixie wonton......)

Flipsider · Post by **Flipsider** » 21 Jan 2004 10:19

Chris Holden wrote:Stepping Paradox Miraging = Sliding (red invented that one)

Not sure if Red invented that. I always called it Blurry Blurry, but who can keep up with the names these days.

I hit Blurry Ripwalk a long time ago, and almost hit Blurry Blurry Whirl (rolled off the foot), and I know a few people have hit Blurry Blur. Did you mean Pogo Pdx Miraging, like Shooting style?

Chris Holden wrote:Quasi is paradox miraging done downtime (ie pdx drifter = quasi clipper)

That's not at all accurate. Sunil coined the term Quasi, and neither your description nor the common understanding (Pdx Quantum) are similar to Sunil's intended definition. Pdx Quantum was the original misinterpretation, which just spread like wildfire on these forums (like all new move names), and it somehow became accepted by the majority. I just add it to the long list of widely accepted misnomers.

Chris Holden · Post by **Chris Holden** » 21 Jan 2004 10:30

The way Red described his sliding set was a shooting set done like a frantic.

The only quasi information I ever found was old footbag dot org list info. That was a long time ago. It's nice to hear someone confidently say "quasi is this...", cause I've been looking around about it forever!

"long list of widely accepted misnomers."
How come there isn't an official encyclopedia anywhere? I'm working on one personally, but it's going to take a long time to get a lot of things correct. The biggest problem isn't forums, n00bs, or any of the misconceptions people think are causing the problems. Top players, baps, etc give me different information on all the harder to udnerstand, technicals of the sport, or even worse, they have no clue what I'm talking about. When it comes to forums, there are generally several different responses, and usually one is right, when asking a top player, it's one idea, his idea, and because they are so awesome, it's automatically assumed that they are always right.

wolfpac444 · Post by **wolfpac444** » 21 Jan 2004 10:37

Ellis, maybe I missed it, but what was Sunil's original definition?

fatbagger · Post by **fatbagger** » 21 Jan 2004 13:34

If I rated theis sets from 1-5 (1 being the hardest) it would go like this.
#1 gyro shooting, I believe this set would be the hardest to clean and hard to play out of.
#2 rifling seems hard to clean and play out of.
#3 smp furious seems hard to execute but once gotten also seems relativly easy to play out of.
#4 juantomic seems easily axcessable to anyone who can wonton but would be hard to play out of.
#5 warped is all about learning leggy atomic and having good leg strength, with this and little practice anyone would have this set dialed. In my mind this set is the coolest of the five just not the most difficult. I also bet that Chris Pinkus will duck this set soon if he hasn't already.

Also I heard that Vasek was working on a frontside flurry set. I am not sure about this info but if anyone knows if he has been trying it they should post saying if he has hit anything out of it yet. If so that set would be #1.

I have not hit any of thoes sets and all this mumbojumbo is how I feel and not neccisarily true.

wolfpac444 · Post by **wolfpac444** » 21 Jan 2004 14:40

Hmm... if I had to take a guess, I don't think Chris will be ducking that set in the near future.

ShredPirate · Post by **ShredPirate** » 26 Jan 2004 04:54

i think doing a warped set is a little more than having leggy atomic set. i also believe nobody will hit this set higher than belly-button height.

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