Pixie?

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » 09 Jun 2004 19:19

What is a pixie and can someone post a clip of one?

Posi-Cole · Post by **Posi-Cole** » 09 Jun 2004 19:37

http://www.hackrifice.com/minisooper/2pixie.mpg

That is a downtime pixie.

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » 09 Jun 2004 19:47

So whats the difference bewteen uptime and downtime? Also so pixie is

outside kick>in out dex>op toe? Or can it start from just a toe set?

SlashC · Post by **SlashC** » 09 Jun 2004 20:35

hmm, I always set pixie from toe, whether it's uptime or downtime. Downtime: the bag is dexed after it has peaked.
Uptime: the bag is dexed before it has peaked and the move is considered a "set" and doesn't necessarily have to be caught on op toe.

Uptime pixie set followed by a mirage:
http://www.flipsider.com/media/practice/2/smear.htm

Another way to think of it is in-out atw bailed to op toe

sPinko-Mania · Post by **sPinko-Mania** » 10 Jun 2004 03:07

Posi-Cole wrote: That is a downtime pixie.

Haha, are you trying to confuse the guy?

That's a same side no plant mirage in my books. Although the move 'pixie' is labelling on footbag.org (and probably others) as TOE > SAME IN [DEX] > OP TOE [DEL], I rarely ever see the word used to described a single trick, it's normally used to denote a dexing set. I think 'pixie' should only be referred to as the set, that is TOE > SAME IN [DEX] > whatever, as long as the initial dex is uptime. For instance if someone told me they hit a pixie, I'd say 'a pixie what?' as in, what did you hit it to.

I guess I don't have the authority to actually claim this, since I did not invent it (whatever you think it is). Whoever initially named it would be able to clear it up without question, but I think a 'downtime pixie' is a contradiction in terms.

Posi-Cole · Post by **Posi-Cole** » 10 Jun 2004 04:29

sPinko-Mania wrote:
Posi-Cole wrote: That is a downtime pixie.

I guess I don't have the authority to actually claim this, since I did not invent it (whatever you think it is). Whoever initially named it would be able to clear it up without question, but I think a 'downtime pixie' is a contradiction in terms.

I disagree. A downtime pixie isn't a contradiction (in my opinion), it's a pixie, done downtime. A pixie is a 2 add move, it doesn't always have to be a set.

After the explanation of downtime and uptime I don't think what I said would be very confusing at all.

Chris Hanratty · Post by **Chris Hanratty** » 10 Jun 2004 04:51

I really don't have anything constructive to say, but I'd have to strongly agree with Cole there...

christof · Post by **christof** » 10 Jun 2004 05:16

a man once said to me that a downtime pixie was a ss mirage or the other way around

sniikeri · Post by **sniikeri** » 10 Jun 2004 05:26

If the next component is done with the same side as in the pixie before, I've seen that people mention it's pixie ss.
Exception: Pixie (ss) clipper = Toe>Same in>Op Clip.
Toe>Same in>Same clip would be Toe Drifter (as far as I know, I might be wrong in these)

OT: Yesterday I was skooling pixie ducking and kicked to my mouth

FlexThis · Post by **FlexThis** » 10 Jun 2004 06:58

Anz · Post by **Anz** » 10 Jun 2004 10:20

sniikeri wrote: Exception: Pixie (ss) clipper = Toe>Same in>Op Clip.
Toe>Same in>Same clip would be Toe Drifter (as far as I know, I might be wrong in these)

drifter is SET > OP IN > SAME CLIP...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10 Jun 2004 11:47

I'm with Spink and Damon

dblthnk84 · Post by **dblthnk84** » 10 Jun 2004 13:28

I think they're both the same when you look at jobs, but personally I perform a ss mirage and a pixie differently. They don't feel the same even though they look alike... I guess all I'm saying is that although they are different tricks, it doesn't matter what they're called. Everyone will have a simular impression of what the trick will look like from a description using either name and if they see the trick then there is going to be no problem no matter what you call it.
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MegaFighter_X · Post by **MegaFighter_X** » 10 Jun 2004 15:01

Yes, they both have the same jobs, pixie and SS mirage, but it's performed differently. Pixie you set and dex. SS mirage you set, plant, then dex.

FlexThis · Post by **FlexThis** » 10 Jun 2004 15:49

sPinko-Mania · Post by **sPinko-Mania** » 10 Jun 2004 16:13

^^^ I'm gunna have to vote no on those names

The move already has a name, it's a mirage that happens to be on the same side, and in the initial movie it was without a plant. You would never call a pixie ss mirage a pixie same pixie right? Is a atom smasher an atomic set followed by a pixie? No, or at least I've never heard it called that.

Also, same jobs != same move. A stepping far muted clipper is not the same as a drifter. A surging muted far clipper is not the same thing as a votex, even though they are the same jobs wise (plants and all).

Tsiangkun · Post by **Tsiangkun** » 10 Jun 2004 16:27

Actually a mirage is set from the opposite foot that does the dex, and this is set from the same foot that does the dex.

This move is actually an anti-legover.

qlunch · Post by **qlunch** » 10 Jun 2004 19:28

Wow, i'm confused, i thought i knew what i was talking about because ive been using the footbag.org definition but you guys have to make everything so confusing... i think i'll just stick with footbag.org on this one

Anz · Post by **Anz** » 10 Jun 2004 21:22

If any trick can be done as set (Paradon, Whirl, Mirage, Reverse Mirage...) then any set can be done as trick.
So Pixie set is set and Pixie is trick - uptime and downtime.

Tsiangkun wrote:This move is actually an anti-legover.

Anti-moves are flying clipper/inside ending moves done with toe, like:

SET (jump) > OP IN > OP TOE is Anti-Dagonfly
Anti-Jester is Flying X-body Toe Kick
Anti-Butterfly Kick is SET (jump) > OP OUT > OP TOE KICK

- Anssi Sundberg

christof · Post by **christof** » 11 Jun 2004 00:31

so what is a ss mirage if it isn't a downtime pixie