Diving / Zulu

Chris Hanratty · Post by **Chris Hanratty** » 17 Jun 2004 16:32

Alright... I've read Flipsider's description on these two concepts before but am not sure which is which still.

For example... if I set with a right toe, dived, and stalled with my right toe again would it be diving or zulu? I'm leaning towards diving... That's all I need to know to get the two concepts straight.

Also... if you need to use SAME or OP for a dex or delay after a duck (or 'dive', whatever)... does the direction of the duck effect the SAME or OP for the following dex/delay? Or would it still rely on whatever is previous to the duck? I never thought of this before, and don't think that the duck would effect it since there's no true direction... It's just something I thought about while writing this post.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 17 Jun 2004 16:40

m4d_h4cker wrote:
For example... if I set with a right toe, dived, and stalled with my right toe again would it be diving or zulu? I'm leaning towards diving... That's all I need to know to get the two concepts straight.

Dive.

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 17 Jun 2004 16:44

Diving - The footbag is set from the right toe/clipper and it goes up the left side of the head then back down to right, to a right toe/clipper.

Ducking - The footbag is set from the right toe/clipper and it goes up the right side of the head then back down to left, to a left toe/clipper.

Weaving - The footbag is set from the right toe/clipper and it goes up the right side of the head then back down to left, to a right toe/clipper.

Zulu - The footbag is set from the right toe/clipper and it goes up the left side of the head then back down to right, to a left toe/clipper.

Keeping in mind that you can also set from left toe or left clipper (obviously).

Chris Hanratty · Post by **Chris Hanratty** » 17 Jun 2004 16:54

Thanks... I know the descriptions, but with diving and zulu it confuses me.

Thanks.

shreddaily · Post by **shreddaily** » 17 Jun 2004 20:00

I think Johnny means right SIDE clipper and left side clipper. So a right toe set is analogus with a left foot clipper.

AIvanyo · Post by **AIvanyo** » 18 Jun 2004 08:50

always do it from clipper, im pretty good at diving and zulu and its so much easier for me on clipper. i dont really think ducks or dives should be off toe.

shreddaily · Post by **shreddaily** » 18 Jun 2004 15:12

AIvanyo wrote: i dont really think ducks or dives should be off toe.

a part of me agrees with you but....

learning ducking and diving is best from toe. Esecialy if you're 5 foot clipper sets aren't consistent

also drills like ducking p mirage>toe ducking butterfly>repeat are realy cool. and don't forget about pixie/atomic ducking, witch stems from a good toe set duck.

shreddaily · Post by **shreddaily** » 18 Jun 2004 15:14

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AIvanyo · Post by **AIvanyo** » 18 Jun 2004 15:20

well if your clipper sets aren't consistant, here's a drill.

just practicing throwing the bag off clipper as high as you can and keep doing that for a while, (same clipp by the way) also, try to set it striaght up and not to the side or anything. That'll help you.

shreddaily · Post by **shreddaily** » 18 Jun 2004 16:48

AIvanyo wrote:well if your clipper sets aren't consistant, here's a drill.

just practicing throwing the bag off clipper as high as you can and keep doing that for a while, (same clipp by the way) also, try to set it striaght up and not to the side or anything. That'll help you.

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ericksonj · Post by **ericksonj** » 19 Jun 2004 09:33

Toe ducking/spinning is a concept that you don't see executed much in footbag. This is what makes it a great variety move to throw in. While it may seem easier than clipper set ducking/spinning, variety is the key to awesome runs, especially if you are hitting 20+ contact runs all the time. Learn every move you can, they are all worth it.

Prenz · Post by **Prenz** » 13 Aug 2004 13:10

How do u set that high/straight from toe, while keeping it so close to ur body? do u pull the bag to the inside or outside of ur knee, or what?!

And AIvanyo... you don't think a move should be done cuz u can't do it well?!

Nice...

AIvanyo · Post by **AIvanyo** » 13 Aug 2004 14:33

Prenz wrote:And AIvanyo... you don't think a move should be done cuz u can't do it well?! Nice...

what do you mean?

Prenz · Post by **Prenz** » 13 Aug 2004 18:21

AIvanyo wrote:i dont really think ducks or dives should be off toe.

I mean, how can you make a statement like that? Toe>Ducks "should" be removed from the all mighty footbag move list, cuz u find 'em easier from clipper?

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 13 Aug 2004 20:15

Prenz wrote:How do u set that high/straight from toe, while keeping it so close to ur body? do u pull the bag to the inside or outside of ur knee, or what?!

Interesting question. Basically to set the bag up high and close to you, you just lift your knee up fast and keep your foot flat and close to your body. Which side is interesting - I've never really thought about it, but just checked and I set it up to the outside of my knee. This makes pixie ducking easier I think - and while I can also set to the inside of my knee - I'm not as good at this (or at fairy sets and fairy ducking) - I think you could be on to something here and I'm going to drill my toe sets to the inside of my knee to see if this improves my fairy sets!

I agree with James that the best thing to do in footbag is to get good at everything. If it turns out there are moves you don't like - you can stop doing them, but don't cut out variety until you are proficient enough at the move to hit it when you want to.

pill · Post by **pill** » 13 Aug 2004 20:53

TWEAK wrote:Thanks... I know the descriptions, but with diving and zulu it confuses me.

Thanks.

if you replace right toe/clipper with just "right side component" it's probably easier to understand, do the same with left toe/clipper to "left side component"

shreddaily · Post by **shreddaily** » 16 Aug 2004 19:18

[quote="Jeremy...the best thing to do in footbag is to get good at everything. If it turns out there are moves you don't like - you can stop doing them, but don't cut out variety until you are proficient enough at the move to hit it when you want to.[/quote]

Ahhh, truely inspiring words, Jeremy. This is my new moto.

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