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Post by Commodore »

Although footbag and meditation both need concentration, there are a lot of different meditations which include more than concentration and of course footbag (or any other sport) doesn't have the effects of all of them.
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Not according to the neurological science. But I'm sure you're right, and the people who have spent their lives studying it, have done the brain scan imagining etc. are all wrong. (Professor Scot Attran, Professor Lewis Wolpert, Professor Jon Haidt etc.)
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Jeremy wrote:Not according to the neurological science. But I'm sure you're right, and the people who have spent their lives studying it, have done the brain scan imagining etc. are all wrong. (Professor Scot Attran, Professor Lewis Wolpert, Professor Jon Haidt etc.)
I love how you put words in people's mouths. No one said these scientists were wrong. No one said that what they're saying is an absolute truth. Simply ideas. Go jump off a bridge, please.
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Well what Commodore wrote, and what those people I mentioned have written are completely contradictory, so if Commodore is right, Scott Atran, Lewis Wolpert, Jon Haidt etc. are wrong. Commodore said; "this is how the world is" - it's a strong statement, and it's contradicted by what those people say.

I also note that I didn't put any words into Commodore's mouth. I didn't say that he was saying that the scientists were wrong. I simply noted that what he was claiming was contradicted by the science.
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Post by Commodore »

I believe in scientists. I believe in those who have studies buddhists and have found out that the way the meditate suppresses negative thought in the brain. I don't think footbag has a long-term effect like that.

I don't want to argue with you anymore. I don't want to make you even more pissed :)
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On another note, it turns out my mum :O yes, my mum had to write an essay on teh topic of buddhists and possesion or something like that yesterday for this course she's doing. what a coincidence!
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Dude Can you ask her if I can read it when shes done?? Or even if we can all read it? thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

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sure, i'll post it later.
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Jeremy wrote:Not according to the neurological science. But I'm sure you're right, and the people who have spent their lives studying it, have done the brain scan imagining etc. are all wrong. (Professor Scot Attran, Professor Lewis Wolpert, Professor Jon Haidt etc.)
Yes, you're sarcastically childish attitude doesn't suggest that you were accusing him of directly calling all those scientist's liars.

If what you say is true, and that you didn't mean to say that he was stating his ideas as absolute truths, and that he wasn't calling those scientists liars, then there was no need for your overly abusive post.

There's a difference between simply being wrong, and being ignorant. And you tried to make him out to be ignorant, when he was simply wrong.

Would you like me to make a suggestion for bridges to leap from? You seem to have some trouble choosing.
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I think there is a pretty large cultural gap between Fred and I.

I don't understand the argument at all. You're claiming that he was wrong, not ignorant? But surely being ignorant means you don't know something? If you're wrong about something, then did you know the right answer? I don't understand.
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Damnit Jeremy, fred is saying that right
now you're just being ignorant, while before you was wrong
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