Yesterday I had one of the best sessions and I wasn't even feeling well. It's cuz I finally played with someone else after months of soloing.
Anyway, to get to the point of this topic, he had a bag that was HUGE. Like bigger than a broken-in dirtbag even. 8 panels, microfiber, filled with sand. It stalled so easily, basically draped over your foot like a pancake. It floated in the air for what seemed like forever before it came back down, giving me tons of dexing time. I was hitting my osii so easily it was ridiculous, and even hit 2 new moves!
Strings were pretty decent with it, but I noticed that the bag had an awkward set. It could've been because I wasn't used to it, but a lot of times I really had to put more effort or strength into setting the bag, and I realized that it wasn't nearly as accurate on sets as a typical 32. I overlooked it though, and was willing to struggle to get those accurate sets because I couldn't miss a stall, and my strings were long and easy.
I realized also that Stallability and Set Accuracy are on two ends of the spectrum sometimes. Although there are some bags out there that are both stally and accurate (Lonn bags for example), not to the extreme. I really fell in love with this bag though, and it blew me away because it was so huge. But I just didn't care cuz it was so easy to play with. Unfortunately I can't put it to a more rigorous test like a pro player could, but I'm definitely getting one at least for learning new moves.
Just thought I'd post my observation, and see if anyone else has comments on the subject. Are you cool with having to fight for those stalls sometimes even in a long/difficult string? Or do you sometimes wish your bags were more stally and you could grab an osis from 5 feet behind you? Or in the case of an advanced player, is it somewhat of a non-issue since your form is so polished, that you hardly miss an osis.
Stallability vs. Set Accuracy
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shredzilla
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Stallability vs. Set Accuracy
J. Chris "Thread-killer" Miller
It's not so much about being consistant enough to never miss a stall with a 32, but using a less floppy bag will tend to make you more consistant than using a floppy old sand filled 8panel.
I don't know where you are with your game at the moment Chris, but if you have learned them, try using some sets with that floppy bag. Once you get into fairy/pixie/stepping/atomic, pretty much any set, that extra little bit of stick the bag has to your foot can severely lower the consistancy of your sets. It's harder to control how high you set and the strightness of the set with a floppybag that doesn't leave your foot when you expect it to.
So the way I see it, I can always get more consistant at stalling, and provided my bag isn't so rolly that it's slowing down my progression in footbag, I can get used to it. But having a floppy bag that makes sets unpredictible is always going to screw you up.
I don't know where you are with your game at the moment Chris, but if you have learned them, try using some sets with that floppy bag. Once you get into fairy/pixie/stepping/atomic, pretty much any set, that extra little bit of stick the bag has to your foot can severely lower the consistancy of your sets. It's harder to control how high you set and the strightness of the set with a floppybag that doesn't leave your foot when you expect it to.
So the way I see it, I can always get more consistant at stalling, and provided my bag isn't so rolly that it's slowing down my progression in footbag, I can get used to it. But having a floppy bag that makes sets unpredictible is always going to screw you up.
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Yeah, that totally makes sense. But the guy that was playing with me, he actually did pretty well with it, and didn't seem to have a serious problem setting. Eh, I'll keep using my bags and I'll probably get one of these too cuz like I said, for learning individual moves it was awesome. He said the guy can make smaller versions of them too.
It did get snagged on the toe box a couple times which was pretty annoying. I guess I was happy cuz for once it wasn't my catch that was missing. I often have times where the bag will roll off, and this bag was spoiling me in that regard. Of course this probably means that my form needed work as well to get those grabs. Anyway, as someone who makes bags this topic has always interested me, and it's always neat to try different bags and bag-making techniques.
It did get snagged on the toe box a couple times which was pretty annoying. I guess I was happy cuz for once it wasn't my catch that was missing. I often have times where the bag will roll off, and this bag was spoiling me in that regard. Of course this probably means that my form needed work as well to get those grabs. Anyway, as someone who makes bags this topic has always interested me, and it's always neat to try different bags and bag-making techniques.
J. Chris "Thread-killer" Miller
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I agree with Nic. A tighter bag with a controlled set will be best. Since my first footbag (that wasn't a crotched thing) I had 32p. Now when I play with loose floppy bags like you described, my game feels crap. Well, not my game, but I catch stuff I know I should have dropped, and that doesn't give me any joy. That's a personal thing, but your form will definately be better if you stick with the 32. My best bag is a peng bag, and it was my favourite straight out of the package, unbroken-in, because it set SO well. I could instantly notice improvement on my sets. Now it's broken in and it's really uber 
Maybe a mid way bag is best for you for the moment?
Maybe a mid way bag is best for you for the moment?
