Saying goodbye to the toebox

Psilocybe · Post by **Psilocybe** » 06 May 2007 09:07

I cut off the toeboxes of my gunits a couple months ago. I hated it when the sides caught the bag during pixies.

It was a really good decision. Not only does it appear that Im not "cheating" anymore to non-players, but I think it helped my style. At first I felt naked without the box but I don't even notice anymore. I adapted.

Free yourself!

Guest_1 · Post by **Guest_1** » 06 May 2007 09:45

The toe on Gunits is waaay too high. I just cut mine off too

Nathan · Post by **Nathan** » 06 May 2007 09:55

ah, the ever popular toe box debate.

i still say leave them on. i have a lot of reasons but i don't feel like listing them so i'll just say: all my favorite players have toe walls.

Guest_1 · Post by **Guest_1** » 06 May 2007 11:10

Hey Nathan. He's using G-units.

I have walls on all my lavers and the cleanest pixies you'll ever see. but I can't use the walls on G00nits because they are too ridiculous.

I concur with you that lavers should have them kept on

david · Post by **david** » 06 May 2007 11:18

My units had walls on them. And I never had a problem.

Zeb Jackson · Post by **Zeb Jackson** » 06 May 2007 16:49

david wrote:My units had walls on them. And I never had a problem.

same, i still rock the units with walls and i have no problem with them

DanJohnHarris · Post by **DanJohnHarris** » 06 May 2007 20:41

I cut the last two eyelets off of my lavers yesterday, and it's a big relief to me. It caught on my pixies sometimes, also on datw's, but it's definitely not bad to cut them out. Adapting happens pretty fast, and if you're doing what you should, you shouldn't need the toe box anyway.

Psilocybe · Post by **Psilocybe** » 07 May 2007 16:18

Actually I would recommend NOT cutting off the whole box, leave about 1/8-1/4 of an inch left. Just a little ridge. That should suffice.

Post by **Zac Miley** » 07 May 2007 16:32

I leave a small wall.

I suggest learning pixies in walls though.

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 09 May 2007 09:54

I agree that the toe walls on the Goonitz are pretty high, but I've seen so many great players rocking G-units and doing super clean pixies with walls that I just couldn't cut it off on my current pair.

I also had a pair of G-units in which I cut off the toe walls, but those were a size too big, so I couldn't account on how well I can play in them.

james_dean · Post by **james_dean** » 13 May 2007 04:59

I avoid that whole debate by doing hippy pixies. they're way cooler. I like my toe walls, I have no reason for this. I also don't rely on them for stalls. And I give zero consideration to non players opinions... wait, players opinions as well

janis · Post by **janis** » 13 May 2007 05:04

lol, good call

james_dean · Post by **james_dean** » 13 May 2007 05:44

pretty obvious we should all play in chucks anyway

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eliminates the whole toebox debate. course it obliterates your shins and has no clipper and they're heavy.... and have that weird chunk of plastic on the front...

but they're cool. and we all know that's the most important thing.

janis · Post by **janis** » 13 May 2007 05:48

or you could kick in these, like I did a while back:

You don't have to worry about the pixies catching on any pesky toe walls because they are way too heavy to even think about doing pixies.

janis · Post by **janis** » 13 May 2007 06:09

but of course toewalls are better for pixie form, so leave them on:

Psilocybe · Post by **Psilocybe** » 15 May 2007 03:52

lol....those shoes look ready for war.

BenRea · Post by **BenRea** » 15 May 2007 04:56

i got rid of my walls today, i felt free somehow.

im glad i schoold my pixies first though.

Psilocybe · Post by **Psilocybe** » 15 May 2007 04:59

Cool, tell us how you like it.

james · Post by **james** » 15 May 2007 05:06

Having walls has never hindered my game. If you feel you need to take them off maybe you need to practice more.
Form is the #1 quality of a good player. I'm not trying to make some kind of direct comparison between players that use walls and players that don't and good form; I just never 'got' the whole need to remove the walls in the first place. Can't do dexes with walls? You're not doing them properly.

Goonit walls are are no different from lavers, then again I never pay attention to them.

Also, I really don't care what other people think about my shoes. Cheating? Tell them to hit a blurry whirl. Tell them to play basketball with a tennis racket.

Psilocybe · Post by **Psilocybe** » 15 May 2007 11:41

I can see where you're coming from. My pixies were not perfect which is why they caught so much. I can admit that. But it goes both ways.

If you have to rely on the walls to catch the bag for you, your form isn't perfect either. It means your not setting perfectly vertical or your foot isn't catching it right.

but IF you don't rely on the walls to catch the bag, why have them....

It seems to me that having the walls will help form in some regards and going without them with help form in other ways.

I think having half-walls is the best compromise.