I'm stuck...

420FootBager · Post by **420FootBager** » 15 Jul 2004 05:14

OK I got all my stalls down well and even have a ton of non traditional stalls. I can clipper and flying clipper. I can get consecs till I sleep but there is one huge problem!!!!!

I have not been able to learn to do anything else... I'm stuck... No one in my area freestyles at all, not one!!! so I have no teacher. I've watched some videos but they don't really help me learn much.

I don't have a car to drive to a club cause im only 16 and I don't have any money to buy a instructional video, so what do I do?

Please help me. I really want to advance in this sport.

ShredStylez · Post by **ShredStylez** » 15 Jul 2004 06:02

No money to buy an instructional tape? Not to be harsh but it's 20 bux tops dude. Thats 2 lawns or 2 hours of work for some old lady down the street.

But as far as help goes, go to as many sites as u can (hackrifice) and watch as many single trick vids and long vids as u can.

I'd start with ATW a.k.a. Around the world.

Start by doing a toe stall (flip side preferebly) and bring your knee straight up to set the bag and as it planes out in mid air circle it quickly in wichever direction seems natural to u. then stall. learn that both directions both sides and ur well on ur way.

I'd try and contact Cheebs on the forum. i believe he lives in Sommerville NJ. he's dope.

Flippin It · Post by **Flippin It** » 15 Jul 2004 06:06

Hey Gus,

I'd say....If you have your toe stalls down patt..
Go for your inside delays... consecutively.....
And, than.... Learn your clipper delays... Both sides...
That will lead to your butterfly delays...

After those are mastered... just go for ATW's, legovers,
mirages, illusions, and osis's...

Mix up the order of those, depending on your style..
But with those few tricks you should be able to keep yourself
entertained for months, trying to master them..On the flip side
too.... Than, Mix them all up.. into different runs.....

If you don't know what any of these tricks are...
Check out a video from offline or someone, else more qualified..
should probably help you by than..

Good luck and have fun..
When the fun dies, so does the sport...
Learn what frustration is?.......Overcome it..
Dedicate yourself... ..And this sport will never
die...

Later

420FootBager · Post by **420FootBager** » 15 Jul 2004 06:55

OK so does anyone have any sites with single trick videos that i can study?

I got my delays also by the way....

I WILL NEVER SURRENDER

Colin · Post by **Colin** » 15 Jul 2004 07:05

http://www.flipsider.com/media/practice/index.htm

Flipsider practice room. Still probably the best laid out resource for beginning players looking for what to learn next.

http://www.hackrifice.com/minisooper/

2 add moves by hackrifice. (Chan and the other Winnepeg folks no this board)

http://www.footbag.cz/english/e_mo_vid.html

Videos of the Czech crew hitting 1, 2 and 3 add moves.

It's always a good idea to get a look at more than one person doing each move you're trying to learn. Everyone is shaped a little differently, and everyone moves a little differently.

ptaku · Post by **ptaku** » 15 Jul 2004 07:33

http://www.footbag.ch/infos/tricklist/schema.htm

Another good movies. Many angles.

http://www.footbagfreestyle.de/index.ph ... sort=&spz=

Germany site.

mosher · Post by **mosher** » 15 Jul 2004 07:36

Dude! You don't need a teacher!

Don't just surrender because there isn't anyone to hold your hand! (I know you said you wouldn't give up, but saying you can't learn anything on your own is effectively giving up)

You can do it! There are so many self-taught shredders on here, use your brain, it's fantastically powerful.

Have fun man.

420FootBager · Post by **420FootBager** » 15 Jul 2004 07:43

I just learned to clipper kick right cause of your guys help!!!! you guys rule!

could someone please wright out how to do a mirage cause the video is hard to figure out what exactly is going on....

O and I had totall misconceptions on what a delay and clipper was the people at my school act like they know stuff but there all f*cktarts...

FlexThis · Post by **FlexThis** » 15 Jul 2004 08:11

lightningbolt · Post by **lightningbolt** » 15 Jul 2004 11:32

I ahve the same proamble. Nobody shreds around me either. Thus, I think I am progressing a lot slower than if I kicked wth some one.

david · Post by **david** » 15 Jul 2004 11:41

havign no one to teach you is bull in the days of the internet. everything i knew from the day i started to 6 months was from the internet. read the footbag.org trick list. you have TONS of stuff to learn from on the internet.

Flippin It · Post by **Flippin It** » 15 Jul 2004 11:47

For the record...
I've never really had anyone too close
to wherever I maybe living to shred with...

Progress does come alot slower, in my opinion..
But.. and this is a big butt.... I do, believe this
gives us an advantage of having the time to master
the basic moves..

Hang in there...
I'm just trying to get the basics, so dialed, that whenever..
I meet someone with the reall skills... I'll be able to pick them
up as quick as possible..

Shredster · Post by **Shredster** » 15 Jul 2004 12:01

In response to tom mosher, i was self taught (with help online)...

Online help isn't always really helpful, i still had to do it. No one was Physically there to help me.

SOOO...you can do it. You just need to get remotivated.

Chris

EDIT:

I ahve the same proamble. Nobody shreds around me either. Thus, I think I am progressing a lot slower than if I kicked wth some one.

Yes, shredding with others (especially higher level) definatly helps progression. It pushes you. However, just having someone to kick with is enough motivation for me to push myself farther.

Colin · Post by **Colin** » 15 Jul 2004 12:33

When you're looking for tips on a specific move, it's a good idea to check the .ORG moves list. It has a limited number of moves on video, but most all of the basic moves have good user submitted tips.

http://www.footbag.org/newmoves/showmove/31

Tripp · Post by **Tripp** » 15 Jul 2004 12:41

david wrote:havign no one to teach you is bull in the days of the internet. everything i knew from the day i started to 6 months was from the internet. read the footbag.org trick list. you have TONS of stuff to learn from on the internet.

True dat. I was hitting Phoenix before I ever bought a footbag video, still had only my Vans, and a crocheted bag. I learned everything my first 5-6 months from the single trick videos at Flipsider.

ptaku · Post by **ptaku** » 15 Jul 2004 13:32

If you stuck on basics delays then go to school ATW. If it won't come then school it harder and harder. When you have schooled yours ATW's then you're unstucked

Legovers, pickups, mirages, illusions are for you. Just go for it.

Jas · Post by **Jas** » 15 Jul 2004 16:38

yeh ive been kicking by myself for about 3 and half months now and i can do legover, pickup, atw and clipper. The nearest group of freestylers is about 140km away from me. I learnt everything from the net but u gotta use ur brain aswell and try to train the different components of a trick first, skooling the simple hops to consec toe stall on one side getting ur leg stronger...
So its not that very hard at all learning by urself, it just takes time and patience and it will get more fun, but when u kick with a group of freestylers its a different thing. Its a great experience because they push u to get better. I did my longest string when i was shredding with other great kickers.

Cheers
Jas

420FootBager · Post by **420FootBager** » 19 Jul 2004 07:10

thanks everyone for the advice im slowly gettin better with alot of schoolin

Krafty · Post by **Krafty** » 19 Jul 2004 09:55

Yeah, same here! My friends used to "hack" with me and after I got better, they got bored!

Oh well...They now footbag too, but not as much as I do, so I have to play by myself most of the time.

marc · Post by **marc** » 19 Jul 2004 18:39

420... where in NJ do you live ? I know a few people who kick in NJ. We could have some nice sessions.