Native Language of Footbag?

Splint · Post by **Splint** » 09 May 2005 09:58

The modern sport of footbag as we know it began in the USA, but has grown so much that the World community of players increases exponentially.

Over time, the language of footbag has flourished with new terms being coined, such as "blurry", "surging", "atomic", "paradox".

So my question is actually for the World community whose first language is other than English.

When you speak in Russian, Czech, Finnish, Japanese, French etc... do you call footbag terms and trick names by their English names in mid-sentence or have you created a new word in your own language that gets passed on to new players in your respective countries?

Obviously, there is a difference between Atomic, most likely already having a word in your native tongue VS. Blurry which might not. So I suppose there might be a two part answer.

qphox · Post by **qphox** » 09 May 2005 10:57

Anssi had mentioned to me that sometimes the Finns will pronounce the words as if they were Finnish words originally.

ie: Mirage - Mee-ruh-geh

Virppa · Post by **Virppa** » 09 May 2005 11:50

qphox wrote:Anssi had mentioned to me that sometimes the Finns will pronounce the words as if they were Finnish words originally.

ie: Mirage - Mee-ruh-geh

Yeah, we pronounce it like that.

Also some tricknames are shortened, for example Scorpion´s tail ->>Skorppari

King Monkey · Post by **King Monkey** » 10 May 2005 03:31

wow awesome topic! Ive often wondered how people discuss footbag in other languages! Unfortunately i cant add anything interesting...

Do you mostly use the English words when discussing it in Finnish? Or are there many Finnish translations?

ebo · Post by **ebo** » 10 May 2005 03:35

We use the original names all the way through.

I heard the Paris Crew switch syllables sometimes, like Torque and Quetor for example. (edit: those are not even syllables

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Virppa · Post by **Virppa** » 10 May 2005 04:39

King Monkey wrote:wow awesome topic! Ive often wondered how people discuss footbag in other languages! Unfortunately i cant add anything interesting...

Do you mostly use the English words when discussing it in Finnish? Or are there many Finnish translations?

I cant remember any trick names that would have Finnish synonym. And it´s good. It would be terrible to say "today I hitted perhonen>perhonen>paradoksi vääntö> hautakivi mid string" (Butterfly>Butterfly>Pdx Torque>Tombstone) And not just because of last link.

Sounds awful.

max · Post by **max** » 10 May 2005 04:39

Some english move names are spelt the same in french (mirage / torque / atomic[que] / illusion / barrage / triage) and are therefore pronounced like we would in french. The English move names we just pronounce them in English with a very heavy french accent

I think que-tor (torque) is the only move name we translated using french slang, thank God...

We never translate concepts such as
butterfly > papillon;
duck > canard / baisser
fairy > fée

that would sound very strange....

ebo · Post by **ebo** » 10 May 2005 04:48

hehehe let's start translating move names into all languages available on this forum!

Ripwalk > Butterfly > Pdx Mirage > Pickup > DATW > Scorpion's Tail > Superfly > Blur > Smear > Pixie Clipper > Fog > DLO > Eggbeater > Fairy Butterfly>Ripped Warrior

would be:

Rupflauf>Schmetterling>Paradoxes Wunder>Aufnahme>Doppel-um-die-Welt>Skorpionschwanz>Superfliege>Verschwommen>Schmier>Pixie Knipser>Nebel>Doppel-Bein-Über>Eierschläger>Feen-Wirbel>Zerissener Krieger

Anz · Post by **Anz** » 10 May 2005 05:54

I've heard in Helsinki players using some finnish translations.
Like for ATW, DATW and Butterfly...that's all I think.
ATW = Maailma (World)
Double ATW = Tupla maailma (Double World)
Butterfly = perhonen

But yeah, we pronounce every trick so horrobly when talking to each other that native english speakers wouldn't understand.

grek · Post by **grek** » 10 May 2005 07:26

In Hungary we don´t translate the tricks...

maybe somtimes we say for DATW= dupla or for Triple= tripla...

but that´s all i think...

habitat · Post by **habitat** » 10 May 2005 09:39

why do the paradoxes wonder?

Anz · Post by **Anz** » 10 May 2005 11:02

w00t!! Recording monster attacks:

Mirage!! http://personal.inet.fi/perhe/sundbergit/Mirage.wav

(there is some problems at the server so the site is not up at THIS moment. If it doesn't work, try again later)

Lise · Post by **Lise** » 10 May 2005 11:09

Cool topic.

In Denmark I'd say we usually use the English terms and names. At least when really specifying a move or combo etc..

But we also make jokes about the names, make up our own names and make 'wrong' translations of the English terms..

Examples:
In stead of BSOS (beesauce) we've made up the name 'Brun Sovs', which basically means Brown Gravy(!) and is a pretty typical thing in Danish food (for some reason..).
Also we sometimes use the direct translation of the word 'shredder' og 'shredding', because it sounds cool and rather hard-core.. ha-ha!
Some times we joke by using direct translation of trick names, but as if we'd misunderstood the English word!! -a good example of this is 'Fairy', which we translate as if the word was Ferry!! ... so like a Fairy Torque could be translated into something meaning Ferry Talk!!

Strange humour maybe. But I'm not sure what sounds sillier, Fairy Torque or Ferry Talk..! Sometimes the meaning of trick names is just so.......... hmm..... don't know how to say it.... hmm... hard to take serious. Like Pixie Armageddon. That's pretty funny, and there are many others like that.
No wonder people look at us strange when they hear us talking trick names...

[edit:] I forgot to tell that our club magazine is called Paradox Talk

mentor · Post by **mentor** » 10 May 2005 14:21

Ord!

Jdigges · Post by **Jdigges** » 10 May 2005 14:26

wow, this topic is awesome. this is really weird, because Willie and i were talkign about this on the ride home from GRASS last weekend.

my favorite translation is Blur--->Verschwommen

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 10 May 2005 15:47

One of my favourite parts from Buda's Best was Vasek describing that run

username · Post by **username** » 10 May 2005 16:29

grek wrote:In Hungary we don´t translate the tricks...

maybe somtimes we say for DATW= dupla or for Triple= tripla...

but that´s all i think...

hey arent all of the hungarian verbs irregular and you have to know how to conjugate each one individually? also, im reading this book with some hungarian phrases, like "I kiss your hand" is the way of greeting people over there, what is it in hungarian?

SlashC · Post by **SlashC** » 10 May 2005 16:53

Erik Chan wrote:One of my favourite parts from Buda's Best was Vasek describing that run

yeah haha! Kevin and I watched that part over like 6 times

comastalker · Post by **comastalker** » 12 May 2005 05:53

I don't change anything;
may be because if you sum up all kinds of comunication I use, english is predominant.
When thinking about footbag (you know, thinking is like muted talk) I think in english. Normally, that only happens if you live in a country for a longer time, but I've never been longer than one day in an english-speaking country

qphox · Post by **qphox** » 12 May 2005 08:01

It's funny how Lise talks about how the "meaning" of trick names is often strange. I never even THINK about the meaning of the words in reality...I just say, "Pixie Armageddon" as it applies to how the human body would move for that trick.

Pixie Armageddon is pretty hilarious to think about meaning-wise though.

And yeah, Rory and I watched that Vasek speech in Buda's Best at LEAST 6 times. We thought he was speaking half-czech, half-english for a little while, until we realised it was just an accent.