What exactly does it mean to toe scuff?

t1337dude · Post by **t1337dude** » 14 Mar 2006 16:01

I thought toe scuffing meant when you take your foot, bring it forward, and bring it back grinding against the bag and the bag sort of flips onto your toe.

But I saw my friend today mount the bag on their right foot using their left by dragging it over and onto the foot. And it made me wonder.

Which is it? Neither perhaps?

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 14 Mar 2006 16:46

Toe-scuffing is like you said before when you snap the bag off the ground and onto your foot. Toe-dragging is, well, dragging on the floor.

Anyway, don't let the terminology get to you. Both of them are always ALWAYS detrimental to a bag's life (crochet even on some occasion). Never do it. Use your hands, and tell your friends to use them.

mc · Post by mc » 14 Mar 2006 23:19

toe scuffing should look something like this.

good luck.

edit: waylon, I don't know what's in the pancake.

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 14 Mar 2006 23:43

I've been meaning to ask about that pic for a long time now: Is that the pancake treat with the chestnut and bean paste filling inside? If it is, I love those. One of my favorite snack time treats of all time.

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 15 Mar 2006 02:15

Toe scuffing to me specifically refers to pushing forward and then pulling back on the bag with the toe of your shoe to get it on top; it also refers, however, to any manner of grinding against the ground with one's foot.

mentor · Post by **mentor** » 15 Mar 2006 02:59

The text is in Danish... but you can check out the pictures if you scroll down! Toe scuffing

Colin · Post by **Colin** » 15 Mar 2006 08:58

A growing number of people will tell you that it's a bad habit to roll a bag from the ground onto one foot with the other foot. These people are being reactionary and extremist. I have a 3 year old abshire bag which has seen hundreds (thousands?) of hours of play, and has survived thousands of toe rollups. The bag has never blown a stitch, and no panel has ever developed a hole.

Edit: But actual toe scuffing is the Devil's work. Strictly for cheap crocheted bags, don't ever do it with a freestyle bag.

slapdash21 · Post by **slapdash21** » 15 Mar 2006 09:31

not to mention actual toe-scratching doesnt generally work that well with freestyle bags...less-filled bags dont pop up like crotcheted bags at all

Guest_2 · Post by **Guest_2** » 15 Mar 2006 10:11

Newf wrote:A growing number of people will tell you that it's a bad habit to roll a bag from the ground onto one foot with the other foot. These people are being reactionary and extremist. I have a 3 year old abshire bag which has seen hundreds (thousands?) of hours of play, and has survived thousands of toe rollups. The bag has never blown a stitch, and no panel has ever developed a hole.

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I agree-but...there are the kids who think you need to apply as much pressure as possible to get it onto your foot-this causes holes. I watched a newb literally stretch a freedom bag to double its size using the toe roll onto other toe method.

You've gotta be gentle. It also dirties the bag more though

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 16 Mar 2006 00:10

Yeah, actually I have stopped rolling the bag onto my foot and I also avoid kicking it as much as possible. This is probably because having heavy bags means they they fall apart quicker than lighter bags and the less bags I have to make the better

mosher · Post by **mosher** » 16 Mar 2006 00:22

Just use your frigging hands people!

How can you be so mean to your bags??

Daniel · Post by **Daniel** » 16 Mar 2006 01:41

am i the only one who actually thought about a net move ('scuff' - inside push) while clicking on the topic?

janis · Post by **janis** » 16 Mar 2006 05:05

Daniel wrote:am i the only one who actually thought about a net move ('scuff' - inside push) while clicking on the topic?

Probably................

Uranos · Post by **Uranos** » 16 Mar 2006 05:29

Ive hit Magellan with fakey legover dex > drop > toe scuff > Pigbeater. No pauses, midrun.

Colin · Post by **Colin** » 16 Mar 2006 08:35

mosher wrote:Just use your frigging hands people!

How can you be so mean to your bags??

Good argument. It's easy to imagine that rollups can damage the bag, so it's easy to believe. I've never owned a 32 that needed repair other than cleaning, and have done thousands and thousands of rollups. This is good enough for me and my lower back.

You sound like Rev Lovejoy's wife on the Simpsons. Won't somebody PLEASE think of the footbags!

jake · Post by **jake** » 16 Mar 2006 12:59

yeah its not all that bad if your gentle but people put soo much presure on the bag and like scrape it up on their toe i figured ot how to do it gently i never do it anyways but why soo hard??

brinard · Post by **brinard** » 16 Mar 2006 15:24

right before i got into freestyle footbag, i played hack, with tricks. freestyle hack?

ne ways, the raise the dead was toe stall, drop, dex deadbag>toe scuff. really neat looking, but only to non hackers. footbaggers would spit on me if i did that in a circle.

ps. i dont do it with freestyle bags.

i suppose you could do an atw drop>raise dead. thatd be neat. wow, i gotta go grab my crotchet bag.... cya

LinoSphere · Post by **LinoSphere** » 16 Mar 2006 16:07

Daniel wrote:am i the only one who actually thought about a net move ('scuff' - inside push) while clicking on the topic?

No! I thought so, too....

Edit:
http://www.frankfurtfootbag.de/video/standingscuff.htm
http://www.frankfurtfootbag.de/video/flyingscuff.htm

mohkale · Post by **mohkale** » 18 Mar 2006 09:33

Daniel wrote:am i the only one who actually thought about a net move ('scuff' - inside push) while clicking on the topic?

I thought of a net move, but instead of inside push I was thinking of outside sweep, because that's what it in fact is.