['what is this trick called?']

BenRea · Post by **BenRea** » 25 Jul 2007 20:25

HXCFOOTBAG wrote:just call it "osis" for short

i think that name is taken!

HG · Post by HG » 26 Jul 2007 08:24

well, ben thinks osis is pdx drifter

BenRea · Post by **BenRea** » 26 Jul 2007 08:45

you still remember that? i watched the video the other day, so embarrasing.

janis · Post by **janis** » 26 Jul 2007 19:10

Benjaminzors · Post by **Benjaminzors** » 02 Aug 2007 21:38

So lately I've been throwing a trick thats a butterfly but with no plant.

SET >> (no plant while) OP OUT [BOD][DEX] > OP CLIP [XBD][DEL]

I was looking around and I didn't see Symp Butterfly anywhere so I was wondering if this has a name or if no one bothers doing it?

Post by **Zac Miley** » 02 Aug 2007 21:50

Symple butterfly, it doesn't get the symp add.

janis · Post by **janis** » 02 Aug 2007 23:33

Not only is symp butterfly a stylish trick it is also a great component to learn. IMO don't worry about the adds unless you are competing in shred 30 (but even then you could always use your symp butterfly skills and whore up the adds with dada-curves

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Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 03 Aug 2007 02:06

It's not symple, it's symposium. But he's right, for some silly reason it doesn't get the add.

Benjaminzors · Post by **Benjaminzors** » 03 Aug 2007 05:55

Thnx

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Psilocybe · Post by **Psilocybe** » 07 Aug 2007 21:37

Whats a miraging pdx torque?

Grade Zero · Post by **Grade Zero** » 09 Aug 2007 22:54

I just experimented with outside stalls a few days back and I can't seem to figure out what this is called.

It starts as a legover, but instead of a toe delay, it's an outside stall then I drag it with a sort of an osis-like spin into xbod position so it looks like a dragon stall.

I tried my best to explain it.

Thanks

Nathan · Post by **Nathan** » 10 Aug 2007 17:20

Psilocybe wrote:Whats a miraging pdx torque?

hard

habitat · Post by **habitat** » 14 Aug 2007 16:36

miraging p torque = blurry torque/quark (quantum torque)
downtime is impossible, unless it is symposium

And for the record, symposium butterfly is a 4 add move!

symposium butter = "3 add"
symposium atomic clipper - 4 adds

???

Unless you plan on arguing atomic cannot receive a symposium add, that (in the most basic way) proves symposium butter 4 adds.

Sitarski · Post by **Sitarski** » 14 Aug 2007 17:53

It starts as a legover, but instead of a toe delay, it's an outside stall then I drag it with a sort of an osis-like spin into xbod position so it looks like a dragon stall.

Two possible things i could think of with the condition that you are doing the osis-like spin while stalling the bag:

1-Refraction dragon - if the dex is hippy (what it is probably)
2-dyno dragon - if the dex is leggy

Dragonosis is much like osis - starting on outside and going to xbody during the stall like you are saying so it all depends on where you are dexing the bag.

Adam

EDIT:

And for the record, symposium butterfly is a 4 add move!

I was under the impression that like symposium stepping (pogo set) it was ruled too easy for the sake of adds, however it is stylie. 3 adds.

BenRea · Post by **BenRea** » 14 Aug 2007 20:25

habitat wrote:
And for the record, symposium butterfly is a 4 add move!

...

i dont know what to beleive now...

janis · Post by **janis** » 15 Aug 2007 00:20

IMHO it's not all that important whether or not symp butterfly is a 3 or 4 add move, what matters is that it is ultra styley move

Grade Zero · Post by **Grade Zero** » 15 Aug 2007 21:27

Sitarski wrote:
Two possible things i could think of with the condition that you are doing the osis-like spin while stalling the bag:

1-Refraction dragon - if the dex is hippy (what it is probably)
2-dyno dragon - if the dex is leggy

Dragonosis is much like osis - starting on outside and going to xbody during the stall like you are saying so it all depends on where you are dexing the bag.

Adam

Thanks, Adam.

The dex I did was leggy, and I've tried it uptime and downtime. It's easier for me to pull off the spin and the delay if I do the dex uptime, so I went with that.

I'll give it a try with a hippy dex, but it'll most likely have a downtime dex. I can't hit a hippy dex uptime yet.

I'll give Job's a try, but I'm not quite used to it yet so some errors may occur. Corrections are freely welcome.

Toe > op out [dex]>> half spin [bod]> dragon [xbd][del]

Benjaminzors · Post by **Benjaminzors** » 21 Aug 2007 13:14

Sitarski wrote: I was under the impression that like symposium stepping (pogo set) it was ruled too easy for the sake of adds, however it is stylie. 3 adds.

I believe I've heard the phrase "add's count the number of elements within a trick rather than the difficulty of the trick" uttered more than once on this forum.

But anywho, <3 the styley-ness.

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 21 Aug 2007 14:54

Yeah.
The oldschool add system is very flawed.
Of course symposium butterfly is 4 adds. Good call.

On footbag.org certain unusual 1-add stalls get "UNS" but not "DEL", and are clearly wrong, because a stall is a stall. I think it's, like, moves above the legs, like, forehead stall gets UNS, but not DEL (according to .org), though I'm not positive about the exact moves, but you get the idea.

I think that gives you an idea of the accuracy of traditional Job's Notation...
A stall doesn't get a stall add = a symposium doesn't get a symposium add = nonsense

Grade Zero · Post by **Grade Zero** » 23 Aug 2007 22:40

Toe > op in > ss clipper

I'm not sure what to call this ^