['what is this trick called?']

EoghanMcDowell · Post by **EoghanMcDowell** » 08 Feb 2008 09:58

But by that reasoning wouldn't it be like a Pdx downtime ripwalk? That would be crazy. But he was saying a pdx mirage, into butterfly. So how could it be downtime ripwalk, if it starts with a pdx mirage dex?

Matt K · Post by **Matt K** » 08 Feb 2008 12:56

Ripwalk = Miraging Butterfly
Pdx Ripwalk = Pdx Mirage Butterfly

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 08 Feb 2008 12:56

Sounds like dada curve, since pdx moves should be plantless.

There was a bunch of confusion over this a while back -- kind of like how dimwalk used to be what is now tripwalk and misrepresentation changed that -- but I've heard downtime ripwalk called "jaywalk" (I've always heard it used for a pulled move... maybe a slurry ripwalk? And some other things too I'm sure...) So if jaywalk is an acceptable term, then with plants it could also be a pdx jaywalk.

EoghanMcDowell · Post by **EoghanMcDowell** » 08 Feb 2008 16:04

If it was with plants than wouldn't it be a Quasi Butterfly? (Hope Quasi is what i think it is) But that just sounds weird. Pdx downtime ripwalk... I'm gonna try that my next session. But yeah, I think DaDa Curves are hard to make really clean, and hit in general. I just like slur the second dex like crazy. But anyway, yeah.

zeroman13 · Post by **zeroman13** » 08 Feb 2008 16:24

You shouldn't be worrying about big tricks anyway! You should be working on getting what you can hit, bs, and very consistent. Then you can start working on your runs, which suck! So yeah, go back to tiltless and work tiltless runs till you can't stand anymore after a run.

Zeb Jackson · Post by **Zeb Jackson** » 08 Feb 2008 16:27

zeroman13 wrote:You shouldn't be worrying about big tricks anyway! You should be working on getting what you can hit, bs, and very consistent. Then you can start working on your runs, which suck! So yeah, go back to tiltless and work tiltless runs till you can't stand anymore after a run.

i agree do bops too

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 08 Feb 2008 17:04

Quasi is uptime.
Like stepping and quantum <--- note all three of these are "miraging" sets.

To say "miraging" generally implies downtime/midtime. For example, torque is miraging osis. Stepping far osis is crispy torque, or torque with an uptime dex replacing the downtime/midtime dex.

Here's a video of a a mid-timeish ripwalk out of a half spin: http://www.footbag.org/gallery/show/-7350
It basically is just a dada curve with a plant, but that makes it a different move (and it also makes it easier to make clean).

Eskimo Joe · Post by **Eskimo Joe** » 08 Feb 2008 17:44

Thanks for the help guys. I was thinking about this move at work today and thought that I would try it for fun, but had no clue of the move was called. Came pretty close too, but my feet got a little tangled.

And why does it always seem like someone on Modi has to put someone down? This place is pretty lame sometimes.

I drill alot and do all of my tiltless every session for like an hour or more and always do productive combo drills.

People learn as they want to learn. I know what I need to do personally, to get where "I" want to be.

BenRea · Post by **BenRea** » 09 Feb 2008 15:22

zeroman13 wrote:You shouldn't be worrying about big tricks anyway! You should be working on getting what you can hit, bs, and very consistent. Then you can start working on your runs, which suck! So yeah, go back to tiltless and work tiltless runs till you can't stand anymore after a run.

im not sure why people say this.

i like you josh but it happens all to much on modified.

yeah, your just trying to help but a very fun part of footbag is trying big tricks.

Grade Zero · Post by **Grade Zero** » 11 Feb 2008 20:59

Outside > Same In >> Op In > Op Toe.

It's like a Smear, but set with an outside stall. Outside Smear?

BenRea · Post by **BenRea** » 13 Feb 2008 07:20

Grade Zero wrote:Outside Smear?

Yea.

Grade Zero · Post by **Grade Zero** » 13 Feb 2008 19:50

BenRea wrote:
Grade Zero wrote:Outside Smear?

Yea.

cool. Maybe I should shorten it to Outsmear. LOLZ

Post by **Zac Miley** » 14 Feb 2008 13:00

I would call it outside set smear, not just outside smear to avoid any confusion about where the outside is.

Nathan · Post by **Nathan** » 18 Feb 2008 15:27

BenRea wrote:
zeroman13 wrote:You shouldn't be worrying about big tricks anyway! You should be working on getting what you can hit, bs, and very consistent. Then you can start working on your runs, which suck! So yeah, go back to tiltless and work tiltless runs till you can't stand anymore after a run.
im not sure why people say this.

i like you josh but it happens all to much on modified.

yeah, your just trying to help but a very fun part of footbag is trying big tricks.

Because if you are trying to get good you should hit long runs.

I agree that big tricks are fun and i try them all the time, but it definitely doesn't help my game much.

Kimbe. · Post by **Kimbe.** » 20 Feb 2008 12:50

Nathan wrote:
BenRea wrote:
zeroman13 wrote:You shouldn't be worrying about big tricks anyway! You should be working on getting what you can hit, bs, and very consistent. Then you can start working on your runs, which suck! So yeah, go back to tiltless and work tiltless runs till you can't stand anymore after a run.
im not sure why people say this.

i like you josh but it happens all to much on modified.

yeah, your just trying to help but a very fun part of footbag is trying big tricks.
Because if you are trying to get good you should hit long runs.

I agree that big tricks are fun and i try them all the time, but it definitely doesn't help my game much.

It's not like you learn new tricks without trying them, but sure, if you want to get good (generally, not pointing out anybody) you should work towards more control and length of your runs. I just don't believe in doing, say 100 repeats of one move a day.

mc · Post by mc » 20 Feb 2008 13:14

Kimbe. wrote:I just don't believe in doing, say 100 repeats of one move a day.

well, neither did I, and now I'm 25 and I'm inconsistent and I suck shit at footbag.

unless you want to end up like me, I'd do those 100 repeats.

Eskimo Joe · Post by **Eskimo Joe** » 04 Mar 2008 12:20

What is it called when you do an illusioning pickup?

Post by **Zac Miley** » 04 Mar 2008 14:15

scrambled eggbeater

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 05 Mar 2008 03:36

Kimbe. wrote:
It's not like you learn new tricks without trying them, but sure, if you want to get good (generally, not pointing out anybody) you should work towards more control and length of your runs. I just don't believe in doing, say 100 repeats of one move a day.

Sure, and lets look at the evidence;

Vasek; Spent hours hitting repeats of the same moves each day. Best player in the world.

Kimbe; Doesn't believe in hitting 100 repeats of one move in a day. Not the best player in the world.

Of course you're entitled to believe whatever you want, it just seems fairly obvious to me that almost all the really good players in the world spent a lot of time specifically working on getting good at single tricks and components, as a significant part of their training regime. Opinions aren't meaningful if you can't back them up with evidence.

slapdash21 · Post by **slapdash21** » 05 Mar 2008 05:09

Isilwar wrote:scrambled eggbeater

i thought scrambled egg was miraging pickup? since eggbeater is illusioning legover.