LET`s GO!
First of all i wanna say sorry, if i attacked your person! neither this was my intention, nor i wanted to attack ANY women! I DON`T THINK it´s right to film asses or other unimportent parts of any body! it´s just how i see things are going! i didn´t film ANY ASSES and i won´t do!
Now i´ll try to go through your arguements!
the "secret" thing:
like i tried to make clear, i´m NO PRO and have no aims beeing world champion, what indicates that i don´t have any idea of the motivation some people might have. i PERSONALLY don´t like the idea of having secrets because of some set or tricks. I would say: "train until you´re able to do it clean, then make it public! If you want to be THE FIRST tape it on your own and MAKE IT public"!
This still doesn´t mean, that i wouldn´t stop filming, when the player aks me to do!
Thoese are PICTURES not video. If you want to take a picture of the circle. Go ahead, IMO, you don't HAVE to ask. Still be nice, but you don't have too.
Paparzzi are really aggressive and rude to the subject of the picture. So, if you think evarybody should act like paparzzi that would get annoying fast and ruin the spirt of the game
I didn´t really get this argument. As far as i´ve read this thread the Word "paparazzi" was just used in connection to video, but never in context to photos. It doesn´t matter anyway, i think. The paparazzi´s behavior is the much more important argument.
I don´t think that everybody should behave like a paparazzi and i never wrote something like that! I even have the same oppinion like you!
What i wanted to say was just, that by law you´ll will never be judged if you do pictures, in any form, at a public place.
As i already said, i don´t think it´s okay to film "private body parts"! I think you misunderstood me in several things. maybe i´m not good enough in using the english language, that is no excuse, just an idea! i think native english speaking persons can judge this much better than me.
Stop using "I just a man" as a excuse. That's weak.
I never used this excuse, i just told how most men are in my eyes.
That i said men can film asses everywhere, didn´t mean i think it´s alright! this is also something i just see happening in the world. I think you´re right with the most following stuff you said concerning behavior...
I find it funny. People wonder why there isn't more women in the sport. It's because of people like this asshole who says fucked up sexist shit. And people just say "word" after it. It's the same thing as the words "gay" and "fag", but men wouldn't be offend by it, would they? Well, I was
Maybe i was able to make some misunderstandings clear. If not i´ll be willed to discuss
The thing about gay... i don´t care much about that word, but i once saw some interview with eminem, i don´t care about him either, but he said something intelligent, HE said something like: "If i say you´re gay, i mean your behavior like, men acting female. It is no offense against gay people"( this is some cite(as far as i remembred the words right!). Sometimes you need to read in between the lines, it ain´t always the thing at the surface. Anyway this has nothing to do with my previous post! so it´s unimportant for this discussion.
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Originally posted by dAb girls dress sexy and blame man for reacting on it...
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Wow. You need to find yourself a frined thats a girl and get advice. Because you are so lost. You just don't get it and thats scary, dude. That's fucking scary.
Ok i appreaciate, that this expression might be a bit too hard. But this is more or less my point of view, i don´t know which other, more friendly, words i could have used. I ask myself, why girls don´t wear that much clothes. I of course can´t answer this question for all females in the world. But in many many cases girls "dress to impress"! girls sometimes(or often) try to direct eyes to specific body parts, i think even you would say this is true!maybe sad but true...
but like i said we could start a very big discussion about, why girls dress like they dress (this has been discussed sooooo often)... to feel comfortable? to impress other people? to get men? to represent themselfs? many options... maybe we´ll do it in another thread
The copyright thing...
i know that everybody knows about copyrights, that´s why i choose this comparision. maybe it´s not as good as i tought. i´ll try to explan what i mean. i tried to ask at people´s doublemoral! in this thread everybody says that you should ask and bring those "artists"(footbagers) some respect. it´s great to give people respect, i agree 1000% with it, but just ask yourself do you bring everbody that respect that he deserves. I compare the official copyright with the idea of an "trick copyright" or an copyright on photos in general of a person. i ask all of you: do you disrespect the copyright in one case(musicans are great artists), but respect it in another case, where´s no copyright at all.
this doesn´t mean: if someone does harm to you, do harm to him.
it´s just an idea to let people think if there´s a need to be that sensetive with beeing filmed.
OOOf that´s all...
Some personal words at the end. I´ve not been rude! You´ve been! i understand that you get agressiv because of some things which are against your point of view, but stay cool and read carefully, before getting in anger. you should never insult persons directly, that never makes you better than your "opponent". You talk much about basic human respect and stuff like that, but your way of talking/writing/argueing ain´t even slightly respectful!
dAb
) - You may not have a problem with this but considering what a small and spread out community the footbag community is - I suspect that it will cause you more problems than it's worth.